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Title: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Silent1236 on July 31, 2012, 02:48:34 PM
So, I decided to make my legacy mono black vamp deck standard, and I realized, its competitiveness took a huge downfall.  It is slow and clunky and doesn't work very well.  What are some good ways to make it a bit better?  Anyone have any ideas?  I didn't know if I should post this in Standard or General Discussion, so if it needs moved, sorry!
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Gorzo on July 31, 2012, 03:10:55 PM
{Vampire Nocturnes}, {Vampire Nighthawk} for sure. It might be worth splashing red for {Stromkirk Captains}, all you need are {Dragonskull summit}s to do the trick.

{blood artist} can be good based on the deck. {Bloodline Keeper} also.  I'm not sure what the best 1-2 drops are though.
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Thorn on July 31, 2012, 03:11:38 PM
{Murder} is a must.
Other cool cards include:
{Shimian Spectre}
{Tribute to Hunger}
{Markov Pratrician} with {Bllodline Keeper} fliped is epic.
{Ghoulcallers Bell} works with {Vampire Nocturnous}

I'll think and post more when I can.
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Silent1236 on July 31, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
I'm using Nocturnus, Nighthawk, Bloodline Keepers, and Blood Artists.  They work pretty well, but I'm having troubles stalling until I can get them out.  I've already got all kinds of kill cards and such, too.  I think that is what I need is quick little 1 and 2 drops.
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: GeauxJuice on July 31, 2012, 03:52:28 PM
If you are to splash in some red with {Dragonskull Summit} throw in some {Stromkirk Noble}s they are great for a one drop especially against humans. They just hurt {Vampire Nocturnus}.
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: GoJuDragon on July 31, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
I played mono black vamps (no red splash) at last fnm (mine is pretty competitive, lots of teir 1 deck) and i came in second
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Silent1236 on July 31, 2012, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 31, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
I played mono black vamps (no red splash) at last fnm (mine is pretty competitive, lots of teir 1 deck) and i came in second

Any staple suggestions other than Nocturnus/nighthawk?
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Kareason on July 31, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
I have a "Legacy"/Casual Vamp deck that is splashed with white for {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}. It has the Nighthawks & Keepers, {Gatekeeper of Malakir}, {Malakir Bloodwitch}, {Vampire Hexmage} and {Captivating Vampire} (I don't have any Nocs). I use {Dark Ritual} to speed it up. Nine out of ten times I open with a creature on the table and keep a steady flow of them.  I posted it a month or so back in the Casual thread and have since only changed 1 {Swamp} for a {Cavern of Souls}
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Silent1236 on July 31, 2012, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: Kareason on July 31, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
I have a "Legacy"/Casual Vamp deck that is splashed with white for {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}. It has the Nighthawks & Keepers, {Gatekeeper of Malakir}, {Malakir Bloodwitch}, {Vampire Hexmage} and {Captivating Vampire} (I don't have any Nocs). I use {Dark Ritual} to speed it up. Nine out of ten times I open with a creature on the table and keep a steady flow of them.  I posted it a month or so back in the Casual thread and have since only changed 1 {Swamp} for a {Cavern of Souls}

Oh yeah, when i had mine legacy/casual still, it would end up with a nocturnus or two out with a couple {Bad Moon}s and some Gatekeepers to keep them sacing.  It was fun.  But, I decided to go standard for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: GoJuDragon on July 31, 2012, 04:51:20 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on July 31, 2012, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 31, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
I played mono black vamps (no red splash) at last fnm (mine is pretty competitive, lots of teir 1 deck) and i came in second


Any staple suggestions other than Nocturnus/nighthawk?
Bloodline keeper won me games, as did killing wave believe it or not. Murder and sign in blood are both good as well. And i ran 1 lilly otv, but there there should be 2-3.
Undying evil+nighthawk+killing wave= 😝
Also, killing wave plus blood artist. Either way they loose some life
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Kareason on July 31, 2012, 05:24:51 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on July 31, 2012, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: Kareason on July 31, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
I have a "Legacy"/Casual Vamp deck that is splashed with white for {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}. It has the Nighthawks & Keepers, {Gatekeeper of Malakir}, {Malakir Bloodwitch}, {Vampire Hexmage} and {Captivating Vampire} (I don't have any Nocs). I use {Dark Ritual} to speed it up. Nine out of ten times I open with a creature on the table and keep a steady flow of them.  I posted it a month or so back in the Casual thread and have since only changed 1 {Swamp} for a {Cavern of Souls}

Oh yeah, when i had mine legacy/casual still, it would end up with a nocturnus or two out with a couple {Bad Moon}s and some Gatekeepers to keep them sacing.  It was fun.  But, I decided to go standard for whatever reason.

I call mine that since it fits the "styles" but I actually haven't played a tourney or event since the late 90's. It's all friendly table top, usually multiplayer, for me. I played Friday night and a friend of mine was playing a modded Graveborn and I still managed to get the win. I won't claim it is a perfect deck but it plays well. It's about as quick as Vamps can get and still keep from drawing "bad" cards. I have {Lashwrithe} and {Fireshrieker} in the deck to help add to the punch. Bloodwitch gets nasty when you have 4-5 Vamps and as many Keeper tokens in the table.
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: izik99 on July 31, 2012, 05:43:56 PM
Olivia Whatshername and {Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet}
Title: Re: Competitive mono black vamps
Post by: Dudecore on July 31, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
I think zombies work well with vampires for mono black. {Killing Wave} with {Blood Artist} is devastating. Even a killing wave for 0, then sack your tokens on purpose and let dmg fly.