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Title: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on July 29, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
Torpor Orb

{Etched Monstrocity}
{Primordial hydra}

How does torpor orb interact with those cards I have more card examples but for now
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Bleakone on July 29, 2012, 07:41:53 PM
They arnt triggered abilities which is what {torpor orb} stops, I would say no.

Maybe if it said something like when this creature enters the battlefield put X Counters on it. Then it would interact with them
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: BlackJester on July 29, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
It has no effect.

The easiest way to tell it has an effect is to look for the words "When [ this/a creature ] enters the battlefield [ do this ]. " and then don't do that.

Nothing else is affected.
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Bleakone on July 29, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
Also things like {cathar's crusade}  would be effected.
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on July 30, 2012, 06:27:52 PM
Ok what about {melira Sylvok outcast} and etched monstrocity?
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: BlackJester on July 30, 2012, 07:01:29 PM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on July 30, 2012, 06:27:52 PM
Ok what about {melira Sylvok outcast} and {Etched Monstrocity}?
Not ETB trigger, but Mel doesn't care. She won't let -1/-1 counter be put on creature you control, so the Monstrocity is a 10/10 for {5}. 
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Bleakone on July 30, 2012, 07:23:46 PM
You could also use {vampire hexmage} to take the counters off for pretty cheap.
Or {fate transfer} :) put 5 -1/-1 counters on one of their creatures
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on July 30, 2012, 08:20:15 PM
Awesome I knew that 10/10 was good for something.

Ok so what about {champion of lambholt}? Does it still get counters for other creatures entering the field?
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: KulrathKnight on July 30, 2012, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on July 30, 2012, 08:20:15 PM
Awesome I knew that 10/10 was good for something.

Ok so what about {champion of lambholt}? Does it still get counters for other creatures entering the field?

No. That ability triggers because a creature entered the battlefield, and Torpor Orb stops those specific abilities 🔨
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: BlackJester on July 30, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 29, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
It has no effect.

The easiest way to tell it has an effect is to look for the words "When [ this/a creature ] enters the battlefield [ do this ]. " and then don't do that.

Nothing else is affected.
I repeat.
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on July 30, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 30, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 29, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
It has no effect.

The easiest way to tell it has an effect is to look for the words "When [ this/a creature ] enters the battlefield [ do this ]. " and then don't do that.

Nothing else is affected.
I repeat.
It'
I'm posting just to use as a reference.
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: BlackJester on July 30, 2012, 11:18:36 PM
LoL
I'm trying to give you the tools to solve it for yourself. 😉
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Harmon74 on July 31, 2012, 12:29:12 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on July 30, 2012, 06:27:52 PM
Ok what about {melira Sylvok outcast} and etched monstrocity?
This would be an awesome combo in a green ramp deck.  10/10 by turn three or so.  Nice!
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: Xanzurth on July 31, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
So {etched monstrosity} ability is a static ability not a triggered ability?
Title: Re: Torpor Orb questions
Post by: BlackJester on July 31, 2012, 02:28:57 AM
Quote from: Xanzurth on July 31, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
So {etched monstrosity} ability is a static ability not a triggered ability?
Static. There's no 'when' or 'whenever'.