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Magic (The Gathering) => Discussion => Topic started by: Dudecore on July 28, 2012, 08:30:27 PM

Title: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Dudecore on July 28, 2012, 08:30:27 PM
What is everyone's opinion abou removing the reserve list?

I am with it for a few reasons:

1) it opens up the extended format to more people.

2) the original dual lands are the only lands that really work well. Dual lands give you the option of splashing more colors, they only produce 1 mana. Shock lands work too, but give you a slight penalty for splashing. Why?

3) Those cards are fun, and hinder a lot of creative people from designing decks for competition because prices are so high.

Against:
4) Power 9 is still rediculous.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: scarsabrex on July 28, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
I'd just rather some cards get off the reserve list.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 08:51:40 PM
Against: delete the Reserve list and collectors that have invested thousands of dollars will 💩 a 🐙! 
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Hays413 on July 28, 2012, 08:54:07 PM
Against. Let's not devalue those cards on that list. My original M10 duel lands are now basically worthless with all the reprints.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Dudecore on July 28, 2012, 09:07:57 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 08:51:40 PM
Against: delete the Reserve list and collectors that have invested thousands of dollars will 💩 a 🐙!

Well is magic about money, or playing the game? I don't think players would be against it, at least not ones I've talked to. Most people in my playgroup, including me, have multiple reserve list cards. But we're players.

Edit: Post #666.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Dudecore on July 28, 2012, 09:13:01 PM
The origin of the topic started with one of the members in my group. He's pretty brilliant, he's highly skilled, and has a high aptitude for Magic. He's one of the guys that can really use your deck against you better then you could. Enough about his ability. I just think that if he had some of those cards in his hand, he'd be able to do some pretty interesting things.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 10:08:48 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 28, 2012, 09:07:57 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 08:51:40 PM
Against: delete the Reserve list and collectors that have invested thousands of dollars will 💩 a 🐙!

Well is magic about money, or playing the game? I don't think players would be against it, at least not ones I've talked to. Most people in my playgroup, including me, have multiple reserve list cards. But we're players.

Edit: Post #666.
Being a Trading Card Game, for some people its about the collecting aspect. Part of what makes cards awesome is their inobtainability.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Xanzurth on July 28, 2012, 10:16:59 PM
I agree with Master Jester. The reason why MtG has blossomed and succeeded while Yugi-oh and pokem
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
I'm just parroting WotC themselves.  They had reprinted (in a Premium Series) a few cards from the list. The backlash from the community (the people who play) was enough for WotC to issue a revision to the policy here:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/031810a

The official policy:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Xanzurth on July 28, 2012, 10:36:37 PM
Freaking awesome love it when my post gets cut in half.
The reason MtG is successful is because of the limited reprints. People want their cards to be worth something.
You have pay to play in MtG sorry to burst your bubble.
If you can't support your hobby maybe you need to pick a different hobby.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 11:17:16 PM
Personally, I would love to see some cards remade, (can you say foil {Black Lotus} anyone? 🌟
But not at the cost of the integrity of the game.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Prophylaxis on July 29, 2012, 12:21:28 AM
Man, I totally wish they found another loophole. Too bad they closed that one up. :/

I'm in favor of keeping the Reserved List. Companies sticking to their word is a rarity, and I love how Wizards has the integrity to do that.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Leviathan on July 29, 2012, 12:36:01 AM
I think it should work like a reverse ban list... RePrint cards on the reserve that are good but not meta altering.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: BlackJester on July 29, 2012, 01:22:23 AM
They have means of printing cards that aren't used in Standard. The reprint policy holds even for Planechase, Commander, etc.

Wizards makes $0 from people selling and trading $3000 P9 cards, but imagine how much cash they could make if they sold "From the Vault: Power 9". 😜
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: Coffee Vampire on July 29, 2012, 01:56:53 AM
I think people like knowing that even if they quit magic or something, they will be able to get a lot of the money invested back, because their cards are still worth money even after a long time. You can't have that kind of trust with everything.
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: AgrusKos on July 29, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
Whaz teh reserve list
Title: Re: Destroying the Reserve List.
Post by: BlackJester on July 29, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
I'm just parroting WotC themselves.  They had reprinted (in a Premium Series) a few cards from the list. The backlash from the community (the people who play) was enough for WotC to issue a revision to the policy here:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/031810a

The official policy:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy
This