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Title: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 11:00:38 AM
Something I just thought of, and have no idea how it would work.

If I cast {Evangelize} targeting an opponent who's only creatures have shroud... Does it fizzle? It reads 'target creature', but its of an opponents choice...

Color me confused!
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 11:12:31 AM
Confirmed, if there are no legal targets for them to choose, then you can't cast it in the first place.
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 11:13:55 AM
I figured as much... No real rulings on it, but it only makes sense. Can't decide if I should take it out of my EDH decks... I only do multiplayer games, so the chance for it to be a dead card is low, and buyback is nice.

... But it's still pretty terrible, lol
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 11:24:16 AM
Making a {Jenara, Asura of War} EDH deck that I'm trying to keep in the flavor on Angels. It'll probably stay in just cause. :P

Also putting together a {Multani, Maro-Sorcerer} deck for my cousin I'm trying to keep in flavor. May make Another post for that one.
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 11:56:34 AM
I dunno. In multiplayer there's often one player with one big monster for you to steal.
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Elitehalo360 on July 28, 2012, 12:14:49 PM
Quote from: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 11:24:16 AM
Making a {Jenara, Asura of War} EDH deck that I'm trying to keep in the flavor on Angels. It'll probably stay in just cause. :P

Also putting together a {Multani, Maro-Sorcerer} deck for my cousin I'm trying to keep in flavor. May make Another post for that one.
{rafiq of the many} is wayyyy better
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 02:22:51 PM
Rafiq is in the deck. But he's not an Angel, so no commander spot for him! :)
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Elitehalo360 on July 28, 2012, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 02:22:51 PM
Rafiq is in the deck. But he's not an Angel, so no commander spot for him! :)
He should be the general, he wins games, I turn 5 won with him, and I never won a game with jenara she's way to slow and easy to kill
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: scarsabrex on July 28, 2012, 02:26:07 PM
because the point of commander is winning.
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Elitehalo360 on July 28, 2012, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on July 28, 2012, 02:26:07 PM
because the point of commander is winning.
Yes?
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 02:38:26 PM
If I played Commander with a bunch of jerks, I'd certainly make a 'd-bag' deck...

But most of us prefer having fun over winning. The others don't get to play much.

Like this guy with a mobo blue wizard deck that he spent $1000 on supposedly... We don't let him use that deck (often)
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Elitehalo360 on July 28, 2012, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 02:38:26 PM
If I played Commander with a bunch of jerks, I'd certainly make a 'd-bag' deck...

But most of us prefer having fun over winning. The others don't get to play much.

Like this guy with a mobo blue wizard deck that he spent $1000 on supposedly... We don't let him use that deck (often)
Winning= bragging right
Winning twice means we can go home Xd
"we play all night and morning long untill one person wins twice"
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Phat Max on July 28, 2012, 03:01:30 PM
Bragging rights for winning an EDH game?

I'm not the bragging type myself: if everyone is having fun, I am.

Hell, had a fantastic game that cumulated with {Brion Stoutarm} versus {Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran} where I won due to having 3 {Act of Treason}s and swinging for lethal general. He had I think 60 something goblin tokens. Good times :)
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 03:32:42 PM
Moving to a format where you can only play one of any card, and you have to use 100 cards is not really playing to Spike's interests.
Spikes -> winning
EDH -> doing crazy stuff/combos (sort of)
EDH is more of a Timmy/Johnny format.

#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat
Title: Re: Evangelize + Shroud
Post by: Elitehalo360 on July 28, 2012, 05:08:22 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 28, 2012, 03:32:42 PM
Moving to a format where you can only play one of any card, and you have to use 100 cards is not really playing to Spike's interests.
Spikes -> winning
EDH -> doing crazy stuff/combos (sort of)
EDH is more of a Timmy/Johnny format.

#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat
This is why I have Kiki jiki, pestermite, deceiver exarch, splinter twin, zealous conscript, niv-mizzet, eyes, and curiosity in one deck XD