{stuffy doll} + {precursor golem} + {blood feud}
nonbo. golem only copies if the spell targets a golem and a golem only.
Quote from: scarsabrex on July 25, 2012, 04:48:09 PM
nonbo. golem only copies if the spell targets a golem and a golem only.
No, it works. The spell must only target one golem. Multiple targets is fine, just only one can be a golem.
targets ONLY a single golem. different from a spell that targets a single golem and other targets.
Stuffy not a golem
sigh. the wording for precursor is it'll copy spells that target ONLY a single golem. if you target a single golem and stuffy doll that is not ONLY a single golem.
Fairly sure your incorrect scars.
a dog and a cat is more than ONLY a single dog.
Where's BJ when you need him :/
Quote from: Brandalog on July 25, 2012, 07:38:07 PM
Fairly sure your incorrect scars.
Scars is right. A ruling for {Precursor Golem} states: "If an instant or sorcery spell has multiple targets, but it's targeting the same Golem with
all of them (such as {Agony Warp} targeting the same Golem twice), Precursor Golem's last ability will trigger."
That
single golem needs to be either the
only target or
every target for Precursor's ability to trigger.
Quote from: KulrathKnight on July 25, 2012, 07:53:08 PM
Quote from: Brandalog on July 25, 2012, 07:38:07 PM
Fairly sure your incorrect scars.
Scars is right. A ruling for {Precursor Golem} states: "If an instant or sorcery spell has multiple targets, but it's targeting the same Golem with all of them (such as {Agony Warp} targeting the same Golem twice), Precursor Golem's last ability will trigger."
That single golem needs to be either the only target or every target for Precursor's ability to trigger.
His last ability meaning it'll copy the instant or sorcery will trigger. That's what I'm trying to say. That's what that ruling states.
if you are targeting anything more than one golem be it a 2nd golem or an "it" precursor will not trigger.
Can you find me a ruling please.
kulrath pointed out the exact ruling. I am pointing out the effect text. if you can rationalize that a spell targeting stuffy doll and a golem is targeting ONLY a single golem which, precursor stipulates for its trigger rationalize it for us.
My bad I misunderstood what the ruling stated.
Quote from: CbStrad on July 25, 2012, 08:23:03 PM
Run {Conspiracy} or {Xenograft}. Stuffy is now a Golem. Problem?
you'd be targeting 2 golems. still not ONLY a single golem.
*facepalm* seriously people.
Quote from: CbStrad on July 25, 2012, 08:28:54 PM
The answer here is {Alpha Brawl}. Which is what I thought it was originally for some reason XD
still doesn't work alpha brawl can only target an opponent's creature and xenograft and conspiracy only affect your own creature. still no precursor trigger. Unless you are also the opponent and are targeting yourself (opponent of the opponent) with alpha brawl.
Quote from: Testset on July 25, 2012, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on July 25, 2012, 08:28:54 PM
The answer here is {Alpha Brawl}. Which is what I thought it was originally for some reason XD
effective. still alpha brawl only targets an opponent's creature.
I though about it, but after the first one goes off, all the golems are dead, so the other copies fizzle. You could target the {Stuffy Doll} with an {Alpha Brawl}, but the the {Precursor Golem} is out of the combo. Still not a bad mix though, and best of all, none f your creatures die in a Stuffy Brawl...
{Reverberate} or {Redirect} {Alpha Brawl}. Does that work?
Quote from: AgrusKos on July 25, 2012, 08:56:55 PM
{Reverberate} or {Redirect} {Alpha Brawl}. Does that work?
nope.
If you redirect it, it still has to target an opponent creature.
You can {bazaar trader} the stuffy doll to your opponent. THEN alpha brawl. But that would still not include your golem.
If you really want to use {Alpha Brawl} to your advantage, you'd need to cast a card like {Reins of Power} first.
Quote from: KulrathKnight on July 26, 2012, 02:20:00 AM
If you really want to use {Alpha Brawl} to your advantage, you'd need to cast a card like {Reins of Power} first.
Talking about mana issues, much.
Right. {8}{R}{R}{U}{U}: do lots of damage to an opponent using {Stuffy Doll}, {Precursor Golem} and other golems. XD
You're doing it wrong. 😁
Lol. Too soon?
It's a ridiculous amount of work! But then, so is climbing Mt. Everest, that's what makes it interesting. ;)