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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Nobbert on July 24, 2012, 10:36:54 AM

Title: Pain of thralls
Post by: Nobbert on July 24, 2012, 10:36:54 AM
I have an {it that betrays}. Opponent A has a {prince of thralls}. Opponent B is having a bad day. I swing into B, and he sacrifices a creature of his due to annihilator on the Eldrazi.  What happens to that creature?
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: Tetsomori on July 24, 2012, 10:41:12 AM
He pays 3 or the creature goes under the princes controler.
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: scarsabrex on July 24, 2012, 10:46:22 AM
he pays for 3 and it will go to you. he dorsn't and it goes to the prince.
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: BlackJester on July 24, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
He sure IS having a bad day.  XD  nice one, Nobbert.

When an event or games state causes multiple triggers, they are each put on the stack in order of APNAP (Active player, then Non-active player, going around in turn order.  Since it's your turn, your ability goes on the stack first, then A's.  A's ability will resolve giving B the choice to pay 3 life or B gets it (sounds like a hostage ;D).

If they don't pay, A gets the creature and you won't.  If they DO pay, the Prince's ability will finish and then you will get the creature.

Confirmed.
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: Ghebert on July 24, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
I'm gonna go with... You get it. But yours has no other alternatives. It just says "return that creature to the BF under your control". The Prince says "return... Unless its controller pays 3 life."

But I'm not sure. We'll wait on BJ.

EDIT: Damn BJ. LOL. I would say scooped but I'm not sure I was right!
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: Ghebert on July 24, 2012, 10:59:36 AM
Oh yea I forgot about APNAP!

This is resolved! 🔨🔨

Thanks BJ.
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: Nobbert on July 24, 2012, 11:01:54 AM
Thanks guys!  Especially Jester. APNAP is very useful to remember.
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: Ghebert on July 24, 2012, 11:09:48 AM
Quote from: Nobbert on July 24, 2012, 11:01:54 AM
Thanks guys!  Especially Jester. APNAP is very useful to remember.

I always forget about it bc these situations are hard to run in to. Lol
Title: Re: Pain of thralls
Post by: BlackJester on July 24, 2012, 11:27:38 AM
You tend to use it more in multiplayer, my format "de choix", when things get nutty.