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Title: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Erzengel on December 12, 2011, 10:59:19 PM

Niv Mizzet

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Evolving Wilds}
1 {Volcanic Island}
1 {Terramorphic Expanse}
1 {Scalding Tarn}
1 {Seat of the Synod}
1 {Great Furnace}
1 {Minamo, School at Water's Edge}
1 {Mikokoro, Center of the Sea}
1 {Izzet Boilerworks}
1 {Steam Vents}
1 {Academy Ruins}
1 {Vesuva}
1 {Thawing Glaciers}
1 {Hammerheim}
1 {Meteor Crater}
1 {Moonring Island}
1 {Cascade Bluffs}
1 {Reliquary Tower}
1 {Magosi, the Waterveil}
1 {Halimar Depths}
1 {Command Tower}
1 {Sulfur Falls}
6 {Island}
6 {Mountain}

34 lands


1 {Jace's Archivist}
1 {Walking Atlas}
1 {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}
1 {Fatespinner}
1 {Erayo, Soratami Ascendant}
1 {Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir}
1 {Arcanis the Omnipotent}
1 {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth}
1 {Lighthouse Chronologist}
1 {Consecrated Sphinx}
1 {Laboratory Maniac}
1 {Snapcaster Mage}
1 {Psychosis Crawler}
1 {Phyrexian Metamorph}

14 creatures


1 {Ponder}
1 {Brainstorm}
1 {Mana Flare}
1 {Charisma}
1 {Exclude}
1 {Paradise Mantle}
1 {Sword of Kaldra}
1 {Sensei's Divining Top}
1 {Gauntlet of Power}
1 {Ivory Tower}
1 {Library of Leng}
1 {Feldon's Cane}
1 {Crawlspace}
1 {Howling Mine}
1 {Spellbook}
1 {Basilisk Collar}
1 {Temple Bell}
1 {Venser's Journal}
1 {Darksteel Plate}
1 {Batterskull}
1 {Caged Sun}
1 {Unwinding Clock}
1 {Champion's Helm}
1 {Elixir of Immortality}
1 {Swiftfoot Boots}
1 {Mask of Avacyn}
1 {Witchbane Orb}
1 {Leyline of Singularity}
1 {Ophidian Eye}
1 {Caverns of Despair}
1 {Propaganda}
1 {Telepathy}
1 {Thought Reflection}
1 {Archmage Ascension}
1 {Dissipation Field}
1 {Mind Unbound}
1 {Curiosity}
1 {Jace, Memory Adept}
1 {Chandra, the Firebrand}
1 {Reminisce}
1 {Flow of Ideas}
1 {Swerve}
1 {Twincast}
1 {Rite of Replication}
1 {Counterspell}
1 {Time Warp}
1 {Wild Ricochet}
1 {Redirect}
1 {Time Reversal}
1 {Reverberate}
1 {Dissipate}
1 {Meishin, the Mind Cage}

52 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 12, 2011, 11:44:29 PM
You'll need to remove 34 cards to make it a legal Commander/EDH.
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Erzengel on December 13, 2011, 05:32:10 AM
I know thats the problem what should i remove
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Erzengel on December 13, 2011, 12:37:41 PM
Got it to 100 cards what do you think
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 13, 2011, 01:55:40 PM
At a glance, I think you might want a little more land. Maybe closer to 40. Or have some mana fixers.

Also, I don't think the {Strata Scythe} is much help here.

IMHO.
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Erzengel on December 13, 2011, 02:39:37 PM
I like going at just a 1/3 land ratio and in at 2 shy so ill see how it works whats the worst i have to drop a couple if cards right now i figure ill just test and see
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 13, 2011, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: Erzengel on December 13, 2011, 02:39:37 PM
I like going at just a 1/3 land ratio and in at 2 shy so ill see how it works whats the worst i have to drop a couple if cards right now i figure ill just test and see

Maybe for 60 decks, but at 100 there's a better chance of getting mana-screwed. I guess you'll see in testing.
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Greg54js on December 13, 2011, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on December 13, 2011, 03:45:37 PM

Maybe for 60 decks, but at 100 there's a better chance of getting mana-screwed. I guess you'll see in testing.

Some people have to learn through failure or actually seeing what the problem is.. They can't just be told it's not going to work. I have that problem sometimes, especially when it's a deck I absolutely want to work
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 13, 2011, 06:30:07 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on December 13, 2011, 05:57:09 PM
Some people have to learn through failure or actually seeing what the problem is.. They can't just be told it's not going to work. I have that problem sometimes, especially when it's a deck I absolutely want to work

Really, there is no replacement for playing things out for yourself.  People can give you all sorts of advice, and they could be right or wrong, but playing the deck first hand will show you much much more.

But, if you ask for advice, 'round here you'll get some.  ;)
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Greg54js on December 13, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
Yeah I know I will get advice. Which reminds me I need to edit the skeleton deck I put up on casual..
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Erzengel on December 13, 2011, 10:49:42 PM
Ok what should i replace with more land i was thinking 35ish for the land?
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 13, 2011, 11:34:37 PM
Well, you might want to add cards that work off your Commander. Most of your creatures are high CC, so maybe some cheap creatures that let you draw. {Archiologist}, Merfolk Looters (I forget their names, but if you search for blue creatures with "draw" in their text you'll find them.)
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Prophylaxis on December 14, 2011, 02:23:47 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on December 13, 2011, 11:34:37 PM
Well, you might want to add cards that work off your Commander. Most of your creatures are high CC, so maybe some cheap creatures that let you draw. {Archiologist}, Merfolk Looters (I forget their names, but if you search for blue creatures with "draw" in their text you'll find them.)

Looters?
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 14, 2011, 09:40:11 AM
"Looting" is the term for "draw a card, then discard a card" effects and abilities.

{Merfolk Looter}
{Cephalid Looter}
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Erzengel on December 14, 2011, 10:57:42 AM
What about adding [Candles of Leng] [illuminated folio] [jayemdae tOme] and [sceptor of insight] still doesnt answer what i should remove
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Spikepit on December 14, 2011, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: Erzengel on December 14, 2011, 10:57:42 AM
What about adding {Candles of Leng},  {illuminated folio}, {jayemdae tOme} and {sceptor of insight} still doesnt answer what i should remove
Close. 😉 The brackets with the little curly bits next to the square brackets are the ones we need. ðŸ'
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 14, 2011, 03:04:33 PM
One card that goes great with Niv Mizzet is {Teferi's Puzzlebox}.

{Windfall}, {Jace's Advisor}, and some of the Izzet spells from Ravnica block would be good too.

{Invoke the Firemind}
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Grexis on December 14, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
{arcanis the omnipotent}
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 14, 2011, 06:09:16 PM
Quote from: Grexis on December 14, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
{arcanis the omnipotent}

Good call!  But you can only have one in a Commander deck. ;)
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Grexis on December 14, 2011, 06:20:22 PM
Oh I know about that rule it would still be nice like maybe if the game runs late
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: BlackJester on December 14, 2011, 06:44:16 PM
What I was getting at is that he is already included in the Decklist here. 😁
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Grexis on December 14, 2011, 06:47:02 PM
Ohhhh whooops sorry about that I didn't see it I'm very sleepy but bored so I'm on here
Title: Re: Niv Mizzet
Post by: Naland on February 01, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
I love Arcanis! I wish I could play more than one in my commander deck. My deck doesn't do well though. Ha ha!