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RDW 69 cards, 9 sideboard 23 {Mountain} 23 lands This is my first version of RDW. Call it a rough draft. Let me know what you think. 4 {Reckless Waif} 4 {Stromkirk Noble} 3 {Lightning Mauler} 4 {Mogg Flunkies} 3 {Hanweir Lancer} 3 {Chandra's Phoenix} 2 {Hellrider} 23 creatures 3 {Arc Trail} 3 {Curse of the Pierced Heart} 4 {Brimstone Volley} 2 {Koth of the Hammer} 2 {Bonfire of the Damned} 14 other spells Sideboard 3 {Grafdigger's Cage} 2 {Zealous Conscripts} 2 {Burn at the Stake} 2 {Thundermaw Hellkite} 9 sideboard cards

Not neary enough burn.

Too many creatures. Stormkirk, {Vexing Devil}, storm rage, and Chandra's Phoenix. Are all you need.

Also. You HAVE to have {Shrine of Burning Rage} pretty much game winner.

I would also pretty much ditch all your sideboard as they are way too costly.

You want to win T3-4 or you're pretty screwed.

I pick curse over shrine because of all the artifact remOval in the format. Much less likely to have curse removed. You might be right about it being too creature heavy. I consIdered that and I'll continue to keep that in mind while play testing

That curse is garbage. Get rid of it. There may be arti removal, but you can "in response sac" it.

I'm just seeing this as a basic red deck. Not so much RDW.

Are you shooting for a competitive RDW, or just casual?

Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:11:45 AM
Also. You HAVE to have {Shrine of Burning Rage} pretty much game winner.

I would also pretty much ditch all your sideboard as they are way too costly.

You want to win T3-4 or you're pretty screwed.

This isn't neccessarily true. Cajunjynx is a RDW type of guy and he runs a slighlty Aggro/midrange RDW that doesn't rely on getting lucky t3-4 wind. He's got creatures like hellrider to help with that.

It all depends on what you want to do. I think shooting for a t3 win unless it's infect is not consistent anyways.

Hellrider is good in RDW. Lots of people play him. I used to. But 4 drops are way too costly when you build a deck around NOT getting a lucky turn 3 and making it so it's a consistent turn 3.

I mean. He needs {Thunderous Wrath}, {Shock}, {Pillar of Flame}, and {Incinerate} still.

Those are staples for RDW no question.

Oh and having more than 60 cards in your deck in standard is a big NO GO.

Plus you need a 15 card sideboard. No more. No less. That's a rule.

Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
I mean. He needs {Thunderous Wrath}, {Shock}, {Pillar of Flame}, and {Incinerate} still.

Those are staples for RDW no question.

Oh and having more than 60 cards in your deck in standard is a big NO GO.

Plus you need a 15 card sideboard. No more. No less. That's a rule.

Wrath- so bad if it's in your hand. Only good off the draw.

Pillar is just overlooked and I agree there

Shock- maybe... Just gotta fit in room

Incinerate- same story as shock.

I did say this is a rough draft though... No sense in being condescending😉

Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:37:53 AM

Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
I mean. He needs {Thunderous Wrath}, {Shock}, {Pillar of Flame}, and {Incinerate} still.

Those are staples for RDW no question.

Oh and having more than 60 cards in your deck in standard is a big NO GO.

Plus you need a 15 card sideboard. No more. No less. That's a rule.

Wrath- so bad if it's in your hand. Only good off the draw.

Pillar is just overlooked and I agree there

Shock- maybe... Just gotta fit in room

Incinerate- same story as shock.

I did say this is a rough draft though... No sense in being condescending😉

Hi I'm kuberr.

Kuber is the Like the dbag of the forms...

Quote from: Tetsomori on July 18, 2012, 05:18:52 AM
Kuber is the Like the dbag of the forms...

Eh, not necessarily a dbag. He jut has his own opinions on things and states them instead of sugarcoating everything.

Quote from: Brandalog on July 18, 2012, 11:26:46 AM

Quote from: Tetsomori on July 18, 2012, 05:18:52 AM
Kuber is the Like the dbag of the forms...

Eh, not necessarily a dbag. He jut has his own opinions on things and states them instead of sugarcoating everything.

Thank you.

{furnace scamp}, {vexing devil}, {stromkirk noble} and {grim lavamancer} are good for rdw.  {shrine of burning rage} is a must.

The devil, and scamp work really well with {brimstone volley}, and if theyre sent to the graveyard, then they work with the lavamancer.  Lots of good synergy! ;)

Quote from: Willthomjr on July 18, 2012, 12:18:02 AM

Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:11:45 AM
Also. You HAVE to have {Shrine of Burning Rage} pretty much game winner.

I would also pretty much ditch all your sideboard as they are way too costly.

You want to win T3-4 or you're pretty screwed.

This isn't neccessarily true. Cajunjynx is a RDW type of guy and he runs a slighlty Aggro/midrange RDW that doesn't rely on getting lucky t3-4 wind. He's got creatures like hellrider to help with that.

It all depends on what you want to do. I think shooting for a t3 win unless it's infect is not consistent anyways.

{hellrider} and {bonfire of the damned} have won me so many games....shrines are mandatory right now, they are what will beat control decks. This deck doesn't have near enough burn. Writing this while helping neighbor move out. I am the Burn king of these here forums.

I've got an RDW you can look, I'll bump the thread for you. It should help some questions you have, and some of the comments left here.

Add the thrine of burning rage It's MUST

Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:32:43 AM

Quote from: Brandalog on July 18, 2012, 11:26:46 AM

Quote from: Tetsomori on July 18, 2012, 05:18:52 AM
Kuber is the Like the dbag of the forms...

Eh, not necessarily a dbag. He jut has his own opinions on things and states them instead of sugarcoating everything.

Thank you.

As kuber has said before it is hard to tell the tone that some one is actually using unless they use emoticons. So if you choose to hear a condesiding tone that's you. I like a nice soft spoken tone. :) Also being that every one is typing, people don't put all the words to show the emotion they talking with.

Quote from: smokin terry on July 18, 2012, 10:47:36 PM

Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:32:43 AM

Quote from: Brandalog on July 18, 2012, 11:26:46 AM

Quote from: Tetsomori on July 18, 2012, 05:18:52 AM
Kuber is the Like the dbag of the forms...

Eh, not necessarily a dbag. He jut has his own opinions on things and states them instead of sugarcoating everything.

Thank you.

As kuber has said before it is hard to tell the tone that some one is actually using unless they use emoticons. So if you choose to hear a condesiding tone that's you. I like a nice soft spoken tone. :) Also being that every one is typing, people don't put all the words to show the emotion they talking with.

I concur wih this. I posted a week or so ago about the decks people post on here and some people got highly upset. It's because hey took what I Was saying too negatively

Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 10:51:56 PM

Quote from: smokin terry on July 18, 2012, 10:47:36 PM

Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:32:43 AM

Quote from: Brandalog on July 18, 2012, 11:26:46 AM

Quote from: Tetsomori on July 18, 2012, 05:18:52 AM
Kuber is the Like the dbag of the forms...

Eh, not necessarily a dbag. He jut has his own opinions on things and states them instead of sugarcoating everything.

Thank you.

As kuber has said before it is hard to tell the tone that some one is actually using unless they use emoticons. So if you choose to hear a condesiding tone that's you. I like a nice soft spoken tone. :) Also being that every one is typing, people don't put all the words to show the emotion they talking with.

I concur wih this. I posted a week or so ago about the decks people post on here and some people got highly upset. It's because hey took what I Was saying too negatively

I personally didn't understand a word you said