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Title: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
How do you make a red and black deck work?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 04:21:57 PM
Not sure this is the right section for this.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:23:26 PM
I just want a little advise
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 04:23:59 PM
Yeah, but you posted this in the rules forum.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:27:56 PM
Is it ok to make a red black deck with 4 Chandra nalarrs 4 fire brands 4 sorin markovs and 4 Lillianas?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 04:32:24 PM
No. Putting 4 of any planeswalker isn't the greatest idea.

Use curly brackets so you can link cards. So we all know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Ghebert on July 16, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
kuberr changed his picture! 😳
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
How many should I put?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Ghebert on July 16, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
kuberr changed his picture! 😳

I is pretty. I figured I would add.


Anyways, post a deck list that you have in the respective format.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 16, 2012, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
How many should I put?
Maybe a TOTAL of four walkers. A red black is usually Aggro. Really R/B is to vaugh. Any specifics?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 16, 2012, 04:37:24 PM
go to general discussion or one of the deck building sections.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on July 16, 2012, 04:37:24 PM
go to general discussion or one of the deck building sections.


Been trying to get him to realize. No luck.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
Hello sorry I just got this app
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: darkarts981 on July 16, 2012, 04:45:27 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
Hello sorry I just got this app
Black/Red zombies, nuff' said. Welcome to the forums!
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:46:38 PM
Vampires?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:46:38 PM
Vampires?

You could possibly. Zombie/vamps would be nasty.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kaleo42 on July 16, 2012, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
Hello sorry I just got this app
Welcome to forum, it has got to be the least troll infested forum ive found...ever.
What formats do you perfer to play, how long have you been playing, where would you put your skill level? Just give us a better idea of how to answer your question
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
I learned to play at summer camp last year
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 04:52:52 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
I learned to play at summer camp last year

I learned to play when I went to summer camp.  I started going in 97'. Went for like 5 years. Pretty much the only time I got to play too. Now I'm better because I get to play a lot more.

Anyways, B/R zombie/vampire is a good idea!
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:57:35 PM
I like constructed casual & on a scale of 1 to 10 I'm abour a 4.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:04:04 PM
What summer camp did you go to?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:04:04 PM
What summer camp did you go to?

Not yours. Lol it went away years ago.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:07:15 PM
Oh
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:09:07 PM
Was it a YMCA camp?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:10:47 PM
No. It was a privately owned public summer camp.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:13:48 PM
Cool so back to the Q. Red & black vs. mono black
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:15:21 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:13:48 PM
Cool so back to the Q. Red & black vs. mono black


{Stormkirk Noble} and {Falkenrath Aristocrat} come to mind.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kaleo42 on July 16, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
Ok that helps a lot, thanks.
First off the basic principle of red is chaos. This translates into lots of damage really fast.
Black is all about absolute power at any cost. In general blak has some of the strongest effects but they tend to come at a cost.
Combining the two usually goes one of two ways really quick damage through burn spells, life draining spells, or strong creatures. The second route is using the destructive power o the two colors to keep the board clear while you set up to end game with a super powerful creature or effect.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:17:04 PM
That was really confusing.

{Hymn to Tourach} is awesome in any black deck.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:20:48 PM
I might want a mono color black vampire deck with {bloodlord of Vaasgoth}
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:22:19 PM
Well you can give it a try.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
Maybe {megrim} & {mind rot}
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:24:44 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
Maybe {megrim} & {mind rot}

Don't stray away and make too many strategies.

If you have one or two. Stick to them and build off them. {Megrim} is a great card, but having only {Mind Rot} to make it effective, makes Megrim basically useless.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 16, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
{R}/{B} discard?
{Barbed Shocker}
{Megrim}
{Liliana's Carress}
{Shocker}
{Furnace If Wrath}
{Underworld Dreams}
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:26:30 PM
Always a great combo
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:26:30 PM
Always a great combo

There are way better.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:30:40 PM
I have {mind rot} x4  {mind sludge} x2 &{monomania}x1.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kaleo42 on July 16, 2012, 05:30:45 PM
{bloodchief ascension}+{minkcrank}!
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Kuberr on July 16, 2012, 05:34:39 PM
Could play U/B discard. Way better combos that way. {Warped Devotion} {Liliana's Caress}. You can {Boomerang} anything and they be discarding!!  And/or you could play with {Jin-taxis, Core Auger}. For more discarding fun!!
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:47:59 PM
What are some good vampire/ discard cards
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Harmon74 on July 16, 2012, 05:49:07 PM
If you're just doing casual, you can use any cards.  Mono black is the ideal discard deck.  There are so many cards to choose from, old and new.  {hymn to tourach}, {duress}, {mind twist}, there are also lots of black creatures that make your opponent discard.  {dark ritual} will speed every thing up for you. 
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 05:50:38 PM
I have{dark ritual} x4
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 16, 2012, 05:52:16 PM
Posted a possible deck list for a R/B Discard in casual.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Harmon74 on July 16, 2012, 05:54:19 PM
{Haunting echoes} bwahahaha!!!
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 06:04:42 PM
My current deck has {sorin markov} all discard cards I said earlier {bloodlord of Vaasgoth}{swamp}x24 ,6other vampires {dark ritual} x4 {corrupt}, {consume spirit} ,{profane command},{diabolic tutor},{demons horn} & 8 other spells. How is it?
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: smokin terry on July 16, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on July 16, 2012, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on July 16, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
How many should I put?
Maybe a TOTAL of four walkers. A red black is usually Aggro. Really R/B is to vaugh. Any specifics?
Depends on the mechanics of the deck.

And I've mainly seen red black as simple hybrid deck. Rarely staight agro even more rare straight control.
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Bleakone on July 17, 2012, 09:02:39 AM
Maybe some {sangromancer} to go with the discarding
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on July 18, 2012, 07:12:26 AM
Standard MBC Discard
Title: Re: Red& black?
Post by: Zman47 on July 19, 2012, 07:09:00 AM
Waz up