If there is a card with regenerate and i hit it with {Snakeform} then {Doomblade} does it still regenerate at the end of the turn? Cause it died as a 1/1 with no abilities. WHAT HAPPENS?
Because {Snakeform} removes abilities till end of turn, the unnamed 'regenerator' can't regenerate.
(At least I think so, it always makes me nervous posting answers to ruling question since we have a Wizards certified Rules Guru in the forum ... not mentioning any names 😜)
Ok what if the regenerator is a card like {Mossbridge Troll} (love that card) then what happens? And while i am here if a regenerator blocks, dies, and then regenerates can it block again in the same turn?
Quote from: Queezle on December 12, 2011, 07:16:47 AM
Ok what if the regenerator is a card like {Mossbridge Troll} (love that card) then what happens? And while i am here if a regenerator blocks, dies, and then regenerates can it block again in the same turn?
No they regen with summoning sickness and regen keeps them from hiting the gy if they hit it they can't as far as Ik though if u take {reassembling skeleton} it's not tecknikaly regn so he can hit but if u bring him back he get ss
Thank you for the intro, Spike. ;)
If you put a regeneration shield around a creature with a spell or ability, that shield will still be there to protect it the next time it would be destroyed. Even if it was turned into a snake. If the regen is an ability of the creature, you would have to use it before {Snakeform} resolves.
The troll's static ability will not help because it would not be able to set up a shield once it has been snaked.
701.12a If the effect of a resolving spell or ability regenerates a permanent, it creates a replacement effect that protects the permanent the next time it would be destroyed this turn. In this case, "Regenerate [permanent]" means "The next time [permanent] would be destroyed this turn, instead remove all damage marked on it and tap it. If it's an attacking or blocking creature, remove it from combat."
So in english that means if i kill a regenerator after snakeforming it it still regenerates?!?!
No it means if you cast an instant or sorcery that gives regenerate before the {snakeform} and {doomblade} then the creature can be regenerated because it was given to target creature with name "x" and not creature with type "y"
Quote from: Greg54js on December 12, 2011, 11:17:17 AM
No it means if you cast an instant or sorcery that gives regenerate before the {snakeform} and {doomblade} then the creature can be regenerated because it was given to target creature with name "x" and not creature with type "y"
Basically, using a creature's regeneration ability will create a shield around it. The next time that creature would be destroyed, the shield protects it. You have to activate the shield BEFORE the creature loses this ability to make a shield from {Snakeform}.
You can always put a regeneration shield around something, even if it isn't about to be destroyed.
Quote from: Queezle on December 12, 2011, 11:03:20 AM
So in english that means if i kill a regenerator after snakeforming it it still regenerates?!?!
I'm not sure what you mean by "regenerator". Example?
{Drudge Skeletons}
{Drudge Skeletons}. Perfect.
So, your opponent targets the skeletons with {Snakeform}. Before it resolves, you activate the skeletons' regeneration ability. That ability resolves, then Snakeform resolves leaving you with a 1/1 green snake with no abilities and a regeneration shield. If your opponent casts {Doom Blade}, the regeneration shield will "pop", your snake will be tapped and all damage will be removed from it.
Then you will have a 1/1 green snake with no abilities and no regeneration shield.
If you let {Snakeform} resolve, you won't be able to regenerate the skeletons any more.
Was that English enough? ;)
Okay. Thanks jester.
NP, just remember that {Mossbridge Troll} works differently.
As far as I was aware it loses its abilities then the regen is also lost
Quote from: Goblinking on December 12, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
As far as I was aware it loses its abilities then the regen is also lost
Yes, it would lose the ability to make a regen shield, but it wouldn't lose a shield because at that point it's not an ability any more.