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Title: Double exalted?
Post by: CajunJynx on July 15, 2012, 10:01:02 PM
Does it stack?
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: CajunJynx on July 15, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
As in, will the angel that gives everything exalted give another exalted creature "exalted exalted" or +2/+2 per permanent with exalted.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Dudecore on July 15, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
{Sublime Archangel} contains your answer. And while Rules Text are not the Rules, does adequately answer the question.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 15, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
resolved.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 15, 2012, 10:35:17 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on July 15, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
resolved. ๐Ÿ”จ
You dropped something. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: CajunJynx on July 15, 2012, 10:39:15 PM
I don't think it does, someone brought it up
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: CajunJynx on July 15, 2012, 10:39:57 PM
Don't understand your answers.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 15, 2012, 10:41:41 PM
it works.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: cltrn81 on July 15, 2012, 10:50:03 PM
Each instance of exalted will give the solo attacker +1/1 ๐Ÿ”จ
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Imdowd80 on July 16, 2012, 12:35:48 AM
So if I have the angel out, and one other creature that has exalted on it. I will only get a bump of +2. Or will the other creature bump twice?  I think i only get it a +2 bump Cause I can't give a creature double flying.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 16, 2012, 12:43:44 AM
Jesus...
Exalted stacks. Count how many times you see exalted, that's how many +1/+1's a solo attacker will get.
So, {Sublime Archangel} plus another exalted creature on the board. Sublime swings alone, how many? Everybody now
THREE!!!!

Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Johng4490 on July 16, 2012, 12:46:48 AM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on July 16, 2012, 12:35:48 AM
So if I have the angel out, and one other creature that has exalted on it. I will only get a bump of +2. Or will the other creature bump twice?  I think i only get it a +2 bump Cause I can't give a creature double flying.
Read {Sublime Angel}'s second text box. "each instance of exalted triggers separately."
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 16, 2012, 12:48:51 AM
Black Jester is going to scold me...


๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ
RESOLVED
๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ”จ
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 16, 2012, 02:35:16 AM
Nope. No scolding here. That was an appropriate use of the gavel.

Exalted stacks. Done.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 16, 2012, 02:39:50 AM
But wut if I haz 2 sublime archangel!?!111
Wut happns tjen!?!111
Trolololololola la la la...
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jdogtoocool on July 16, 2012, 05:57:15 AM
Lol don't have to be an a hole about it
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 16, 2012, 10:14:18 AM
I think maybe somebody does actually.
All I'm saying is a quick search will do wonders. Google can be a great thing.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 16, 2012, 10:27:08 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 16, 2012, 10:14:18 AM
I think maybe somebody does actually.
All I'm saying is a quick search will do wonders. Google can be a great thing.
This and Several peeps already answered the question correctly.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 16, 2012, 12:12:11 PM
Too soon for gavel?
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 16, 2012, 12:13:33 PM
gavel has already been used liberally.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 16, 2012, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on July 16, 2012, 12:13:33 PM
gavel has already been used liberally.

I think you need to put one last one in here
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 16, 2012, 12:14:58 PM
๐Ÿ”จ
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: cltrn81 on July 16, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on July 16, 2012, 12:14:58 PM
๐Ÿ”จ
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Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Rass on July 16, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
But what if you have double strike what happens thenโŒโŒโŒ




Jkjk
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 16, 2012, 02:12:06 PM
Exalted + Doublestrike is a reasonable question, actually.

Nothing happens.  Doublestrike doesn't trigger exalted again.  Only another attack phase would.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Elitehalo360 on July 17, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 16, 2012, 02:12:06 PM
Exalted + Doublestrike is a reasonable question, actually.

Nothing happens.  Doublestrike doesn't trigger exalted again.  Only another attack phase would.
{rafiq of the many}
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 17, 2012, 01:46:05 PM
your point being?
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 17, 2012, 01:50:50 PM
My head xplode
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Maximo on July 17, 2012, 02:21:31 PM
I think the guy was asking if sublime archangel would give a creature with exalted another Exalted. If so, no, I don't think you can stack keywords to, say, give a creature double lifelink or double flying. DOUBLE HAWK
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 17, 2012, 02:26:15 PM
Quote from: Maximo on July 17, 2012, 02:21:31 PM
I think the guy was asking if sublime archangel would give a creature with exalted another Exalted. If so, no, I don't think you can stack keywords to, say, give a creature double lifelink or double flying. DOUBLE HAWK

... omg this has already been resolved... it's even in {sublime archangel}'s reminder text. double exalted works.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 17, 2012, 02:30:22 PM
I I love love double double chex chex
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kaleo42 on July 17, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
I saw this thread and didnt read it cause the answer was easy, but it's stayed on top for so long i figured id see what the problem was.... That was painful to read.
Some keywords can stack. So far as i can tell, the ones that change a creatures behavior (how it attacks, deals damage, and so on) cant stack, but the ones that give the creature bonus's can stack (exalted, bloodthirst, etc.).
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Maximo on July 17, 2012, 02:36:48 PM
Hello, I am Derp it's nice to meet you
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 17, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: Maximo on July 17, 2012, 02:36:48 PM
Hello, I am Derp it's nice to meet you

๐ŸŽฏ
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 17, 2012, 02:53:07 PM
*assume full mindsculpting powers*
RESOLVED ๐Ÿ”จ
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 17, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
I saw this thread and didnt read it cause the answer was easy, but it's stayed on top for so long i figured id see what the problem was.... That was painful to read.
Some keywords can stack. So far as i can tell, the ones that change a creatures behavior (how it attacks, deals damage, and so on) cant stack, but the ones that give the creature bonus's can stack (exalted, bloodthirst, etc.).
A good summary.  Let's be exhaustive, shall we:
All "stackable" keyword abilities as of this post

Rampage
Cumulative Upkeep
Flanking
Amplify
Provoke
Storm
Affinity
Modular
Sunburst
Bushido
Soulshift
Bloodthirst
Replicate
Graft
Ripple
Vanishing
Absorb
Fortify
Frenzy
Gravestorm
Poisonous
Conspire
Exalted
Cascade
Annihilator
Battlecry


In this context, "stackable" means "If a spell/creature/permanent has multiple instances of [ KEYWORD ], each of them applies/triggers separately."

We good here?  I may just post this as a sticky for future reference.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Maximo on July 17, 2012, 03:53:07 PM
You must pop it and lock it jester
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 04:29:14 PM
Popped and locked.  Cue the dubstep.  8)
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: cltrn81 on July 17, 2012, 10:04:27 PM
๐Ÿ”จ
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: cltrn81 on July 17, 2012, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 17, 2012, 10:04:27 PM
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Just could not help myself ๐Ÿ˜

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Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 17, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
Does exalted stack with banding?  I never found banding as confusing as stated in the reasoning behind absolving it, but I always found it annoying.

It was a wise guy question, I know exalted does not work with more than one attacker, but it would make banding more interesting at least. 
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Deathstorm on July 17, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
When you band something they become one creature so exalted would work because it's still only one creature attacking
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 17, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
That is not correct. Exalted states exactly one creature.  During declare attackers, you declare attackers, then you choose to band which then forms the one banded force, then you tap to attack. It's a small tedious detail in the declare attackers step, but it is the reason why banded creatures would not gain exalted benefits.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: Deathstorm on July 17, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
When you band something they become one creature so exalted would work because it's still only one creature attacking
No, they are still different creatures. They don't share abilities, you can't kill the band with one {Murder}, you couldn't sac a band to a {Disciple of Griselbrand} for {1}.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 17, 2012, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: Deathstorm on July 17, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
When you band something they become one creature so exalted would work because it's still only one creature attacking
No, they are still different creatures. They don't share abilities, you can't kill the band with one {Murder}, you could sac a band to a {Disciple of Griselbrand} for {1}.

Hmmm.  Interesting. If you can sac a banded group using the ability, why would murder not also work? Fancy word semantics? I'm scratching my head on that one, since either way real damage isn't being dealt; unless I've misunderstood sacrifice rules regarding this.

How would target creature differ from sacrifice a creature in a banded sense is my real question I suppose.

Never mind -- Canadian auto correct must not be 100% compatible with English contractions. Either that or jester spilled some gravy from his fries onto the keyboard ;)
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 11:11:27 PM
Typo.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 17, 2012, 11:12:36 PM
Oh ok. I was seriously confused dude, lol.  Thanks :P
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
Why do Americans always bring up the Canadian thing? Zealous over compensation for a deep seeded yearning to live in the land of perpetual snow, beer that doesn't taste like water, universal healthcare, an abundance of beaver (see what I did there ๐Ÿ˜‰), and being able to leave your door unlocked whenever?
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: scarsabrex on July 18, 2012, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
Why do Americans always bring up the Canadian thing? Zealous over compensation for a deep seeded yearning to live in the land of perpetual snow, beer that doesn't taste like water, universal healthcare, an abundance of beaver (see what I did there ๐Ÿ˜‰), and being able to leave your door unlocked whenever?

as an american i'll say yes to everything but the healthcare.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:23:50 AM
You got them mounties to protect you.

Chase you down with their cute little horses while I drive away in my Bugatti.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
Seems legit
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:27:32 AM
Some people call me Snidley Whiplash.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
Well, let's just hope you don't wipe out that expensive motorcycle. I'm sure the hospital bill won't be THAT much
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:27:32 AM
Some people call me Snidley Whiplash.
Is that 'cause you rear-end so many people in your Bugatti?
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Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:40:24 AM
That's actually a DUCATTI. Bugatti is the fastest street legal car made.

Oh and how did you Canadian boys not get the reference???? Do you not watch your own movies? Maybe I'm just too old.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
Ah Ducatti. Seen.

And Dudley Do-Right kind of sucks. I wanted to skip it and leave it behind.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
Ah Ducatti. Seen.

And Dudley Do-Right kind of sucks. I wanted to skip it and leave it behind.


Hahaha. Hey hey hey. Idk if you have kids, but my son love it! The cartoon was clever back in the day.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:46:48 AM
Lol cartoon yes. Who can say no to a rocky bullwinkle spinoff. I thought you were talking the ill fated brendan Fraser fiasco
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 12:49:04 AM
Do you mean the Snidely Whiplash ref?  You mean the character from the American cartoon series Rocky and Bullwinkle, or the American movie Dudley Do-Right, played by American Bredan Fraser?

You know, if it wasn't for the fact the OP's question was answered on the first page, I'd say we should get back on track. But then we'd have missed all this hilarity. Hurray for off-topic!
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:51:48 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 12:52:56 AM
"Our" movie indeed. ๐Ÿ˜ Silly Kubs.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:54:17 AM
You know I think he was the only American in the movie. Sex and the City chick is Canadian, isn't she?
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:56:56 AM
Either way, I prefer Strange Brew for "our" movie... Hoser
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 12:58:25 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:54:17 AM
You know I think he was the only American in the movie. Sex and the City chick is Canadian, isn't she?
Sarah Jessica-Parker? Nope.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:59:25 AM
Well then i be mistaken.

Beerfest ftw
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:02:18 AM
Jed Ross is Canadian. But anyway. We are so off topic. Somebody needs to ask another dumb, resolved-already-with-gavel-action question about exalted...
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 01:03:52 AM
Two creatures attack. One with exalted. Opponent taps {Maze of Ith} on the one without exalted. Does the exalted creature gain the +1?
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:04:46 AM
Screw it Hays, you and I are hijacking this thread to talk Canadiana!  >:D
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:04:48 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 01:03:52 AM
Two creatures attack. One with exalted. Opponent taps {Maze of Ith} on the one without exalted. Does the exalted creature gain the +1?

Hahahaha
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:06:03 AM
Nope. Exalted only triggers once at the time attackers are declared.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:06:29 AM
Oh yea, Taste of Edmonton this weekend. Always a good time! Gonna stuff my face, get drunk on "strange brews" and stumble home in less than 5. Living downtown is awesome
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 01:08:24 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:06:03 AM
Nope. Exalted only triggers once at the time attackers are declared.

For some reason I had thought said "remove creature from combat".
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:08:30 AM
Back to Canadian depictions in US media, I love how they depicted Alberta in the first X-men movie. You know, since Wolverine is a fellow Albertain and all. ๐Ÿ˜Š
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 01:10:28 AM
Survivorman is awesome. He's Canadian!
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:11:21 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:08:30 AM
Back to Canadian depictions in US media, I love how they depicted Alberta in the first X-men movie. You know, since Wolverine is a fellow Albertain and all. ๐Ÿ˜Š

This โฌ† It gives me a weird Canadian/Geek Broner. Logan is totally reppin'. Lumberjack or the win
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:11:21 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:06:29 AM
Oh yea, Taste of Edmonton this weekend. Always a good time! Gonna stuff my face, get drunk on "strange brews" and stumble home in less than 5. Living downtown is awesome
True. I haven't gone since they redid Churhill Square. ToE used to get so muddy. How is it now?  Is it hot with all that concrete?
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:12:52 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 01:08:24 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:06:03 AM
Nope. Exalted only triggers once at the time attackers are declared.

For some reason I had thought said "remove creature from combat".
It does remove it, but by then Exalted has already done its "was it the only declared attacker" trigger.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:14:03 AM
Lol most people don't even remember the grass! I miss it. The concrete is terrible! Hot, ugly, and skater kids everywhere. I dont really want to bring up the ugly ass art gallery that cost WAAY to F'ing much, but WTF!?! Lol, I miss the grass
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:15:15 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:11:21 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:08:30 AM
Back to Canadian depictions in US media, I love how they depicted Alberta in the first X-men movie. You know, since Wolverine is a fellow Albertain and all. ๐Ÿ˜Š

This โฌ† It gives me a weird Canadian/Geek Broner. Logan is totally reppin'. Lumberjack or the win
Lolz Yeah, 'cause Alberta is rife with lumberjacks. XD shoulda made him a rig pig. ๐Ÿท
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
Haha Well not anymore I guess lol.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:16:06 AM
My new favorite thread, right here.
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 01:17:52 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:16:06 AM
My new favorite thread, right here.

Oh totally. But on a serious note. Next person to make a new thread about exalted should get throat punched through the Internet. Just saying.

Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 18, 2012, 07:38:22 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
Why do Americans always bring up the Canadian thing? Zealous over compensation for a deep seeded yearning to live in the land of perpetual snow, beer that doesn't taste like water, universal healthcare, an abundance of beaver (see what I did there ๐Ÿ˜‰), and being able to leave your door unlocked whenever?

It was nothing more than a reference to a post a while back that included Jester and a Canadian reference about French fries and gravy.  No jealousy here, trust me :)
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Jbombard51 on July 18, 2012, 07:38:22 AM
...No jealousy here, trust me :)

What's THAT supposed to mean?   >:(

jk  ;)
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 18, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Jbombard51 on July 18, 2012, 07:38:22 AM
...No jealousy here, trust me :)

What's THAT supposed to mean?   >:(

jk  ;)

I'm French Canadian and native American, best of both worlds ;)
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: Jbombard51 on July 18, 2012, 11:51:05 AM

I'm French Canadian and native American, best of both worlds ;)
Aww man, you just made me want some bannock with maple butter.  :9
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:41:22 PM
I wish I was a Canadian.

I always wondered Why I couldn't get that little extra pump while I played hockey.

I know now it was because I wasn't Canadian!!
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:41:22 PM
I wish I was a Canadian.

I always wondered Why I couldn't get that little extra pump while I played hockey.

I know now it was because I wasn't Canadian!!
Interesting story, it was brought in by Icelandic folk during immigration.  We made it awesome, though.

Now, we DID invent Basketball.  You're welcome.   8)
Title: Re: Double exalted?
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 01:12:18 PM
I hate basketball.