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I've noticed quite a few threads about this, so I will gather it all up and sticky for convenience.

Koopa from MTGSalvation:

Thoughts on the MTG Panel:

FTV: Realms:
They spoiled Urborg, Tomb of Yagomth; Glacial Chasm; Grove of the Burnwillow; Forbidden Orchard; and Dryad Arbor.

I was unimpressed until I saw the Arbor. WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL! (looking for a picture right now) Like crazy beautiful... It has a Modern frame (the regular frame, not future sight), has the color indicator that they used on the "night side" of werewolves, and the text box... nothing. Just the Green symbol used on Basic Forest.

Commander Arsenal:
No more premium decks... oh no I don't care.
A commander product every year Commander sets? Score. Thumbs up.

Duel Decks: Golgari vs Izzet:
We get the name, type, and manacost of the Golgari Legend... nobody cares, give me a little more so I care.

Return to Ravnica, Gatecrash, and "Sinker".

Oh wow, lots of information here... basically all upside.

First, guilds coming back. This was obvious but it's good to hear it's happening as this is yet another hint at Shocks coming back. RtR will have Izzet, Azorious, Rakdos, Selesnya, and Golgari. With Simic, Gruul, Boros, Orzhov, and Dimir being in Gatecrash. All guilds have new keywords. The guilds watermarks are slightly changed, but still easy to identify.

Second, this is a Ravnica block, so no planar jumping as was speculated before.

Third. The set cycle will be Big-Big-Small. So come fall you will draft RtR, RtR, RtR. In winter, you will draft Gatecrash, Gatecrash, Gatecrash. Then come Spring, you will draft Return to Rav, Gatecrash, "Sinker" (but in reverse order obv). This is cool.

At the prerelease, you get to choose your guild. So come the Return to Ravnica Prerelease, I could choose say Izzet (which I will) and I will get the following:

-5 Return to Ravnica packs.
-A Guild pack of your guild with 15 cards of those colors.
-Promo prerelease card (which there will be 5 promos for Return and Gateway, one for each guild.)
-Guild spindown.
-Guild sticker.
-A letter from your guild leader and...
-A Prerelease challenge card.

This is all good except the fact that you get to also play with your prerelease card, which will be an auto-include in everyone's deck.

Also, there are two PW in RtR. One is Jace.
In Gatecrash, the tagline is "Fight for your guild" and Gideon is confirmed to be one of the two PW in that set. All hints and the picture of him scream he will be Boros.

Funny part. MaRo asked what the most important thing in Ravnica was and the audience screams "Shocklands!" of which Maro replies... "Yea and Guilds..."

Anyway, I was very impressed. Good panel overall.

I think I just peed a little.

Yep. I did.

I was reading about RtR and i jizzed.. In.. My pants

Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 15, 2012, 01:18:51 AM
I was reading about RtR and i jizzed.. In.. My pants

I lolled for realz. 😂

Omg I didn't play in the first ravinica block but I'm so excited for this one!!!!

And I used the jizz in my pants line for ajani. I would have done it for shock lands returning, but.....

Boner. I'm saving already. Gonna buy a case me thinks.

What guild packs r u guys gunna choose? For me its boros all the way in the gatecrash (if they do the same thing) and in RtR i really dont care. Haha. Probly izzet i guess, gatecrash has all the good 1s IMHO

Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 15, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
What guild packs r u guys gunna choose? For me its boros all the way

I'll decide when the set is previewed

Quote from: Hays413 on July 15, 2012, 02:24:51 AM

Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 15, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
What guild packs r u guys gunna choose? For me its boros all the way

I'll decide when the set is previewed

Yeah, thats probly a good idea. Haha

Quote from: Hays413 on July 15, 2012, 02:24:51 AM

Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 15, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
What guild packs r u guys gunna choose? For me its boros all the way

I'll decide when the set is previewed

Ditto. Probably Izzet or Rakdos.

Azorius all the way!

Quote from: Prophylaxis on July 15, 2012, 03:04:47 AM
Azorius all the way!

Ditto, those are my colours

Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 15, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
What guild packs r u guys gunna choose? For me its boros all the way in the gatecrash (if they do the same thing) and in RtR i really dont care. Haha. Probly izzet i guess, gatecrash has all the good 1s IMHO

Gonna be expensive but I think I will choose all 5

I loved the Premium Deck Series. :(

Quote from: Dudecore on July 15, 2012, 08:48:29 AM
I loved the Premium Deck Series. :(

I thought they were fun

Good job Proph....thx for the collection of information 👍

Wow...all the good guilds are in gatecrash except for Izzet and Azorious

Quote from: Rass on July 15, 2012, 09:21:16 AM

Quote from: Dudecore on July 15, 2012, 08:48:29 AM
I loved the Premium Deck Series. :(

I thought they were fun

Same here. 😭

Woo RAKDOS!!

A little sad I was hoping for some Boros action out of the gate.

Quote from: Chaosquirrel on July 16, 2012, 05:26:57 AM
A little sad I was hoping for some Boros action out of the gate.

Out of the gate....crash?

So now I'm thinking I need to stop buying M13 and holding my money for RtR.  Anyone else thinking the same thing?

Quote from: Leviathan on July 16, 2012, 08:40:23 AM

Quote from: Chaosquirrel on July 16, 2012, 05:26:57 AM
A little sad I was hoping for some Boros action out of the gate.

Out of the gate....crash?

I see what you did there. 👀

Quote from: Dmreiss on July 16, 2012, 09:19:26 AM
So now I'm thinking I need to stop buying M13 and holding my money for RtR.  Anyone else thinking the same thing?

M13 sucks a fat one IMHO. Save your money anyways. M13 will likely not add much to standard, probably add to Ravnica, has some of the worst rares that I could ever remember, and a boring draft environment.

8)

Can we have a poll about which guilds people will be with ? :) it would be kinda cool.

Quote from: DevilGin on July 17, 2012, 06:45:24 AM
Can we have a poll about which guilds people will be with ? :) it would be kinda cool.

Tah dah!

Gonna have to research before I vote., leaning B/G or B/R. Though R/U was the first deck I ever made. So those colors hold a special place.

Yay!!! I love polls......maybe I should start creating some polls.....

Anyway Azorious for me, I have been keen on U/W decks of late.

Izzet!
Although i always disliked their guildmage... Niv does not approve of bubble blowing! >:(

Wow!  So far no love for Selesnya.   :o

Quote from: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 05:43:34 PM
Wow!  So far no love for Selesnya.   :o

Me. But unfortunately, due to military obligations. I'll be gone for the whole release. Very sad face!

Quote from: Hays413 on July 17, 2012, 05:49:27 PM

Quote from: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 05:43:34 PM
Wow!  So far no love for Selesnya.   :o

Me. But unfortunately, due to military obligations. I'll be gone for the whole release. Very sad face!

Find a prerelease near your station!  XD

Umm, middle of nowhere sleeping in tents, no time off...

3G network + laptop + MTGO + pedal bike converted into AC power generator.

Man, I thought you military folk were resourceful.   ;D

This while prerelease thing means I'll need to attend 5 different prerekeases to get all the PLAYABLE promo cards.... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

Quote from: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
3G network + laptop + MTGO + pedal bike converted into AC power generator.

Man, I thought you military folk were resourceful.   ;D

Yea mtgo doesn't get me cards in hand chief. Try again

Quote from: CbStrad on July 17, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
When IS prerelease anyway?

www.google.com

Quote from: Hays413 on July 17, 2012, 06:45:02 PM

Quote from: BlackJester on July 17, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
3G network + laptop + MTGO + pedal bike converted into AC power generator.

Man, I thought you military folk were resourceful.   ;D

Yea mtgo doesn't get me cards in hand chief. Try again

LOL  Well, at least you called me chief.

Quote from: CbStrad on July 17, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
When IS prerelease anyway?

September 29th and 30th

I like the idea of getting spindown life counters as party favors for prereleases. Hopefully the trend will stick. I do love me a gud d20 with a purty picture symbol! ;D

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on July 18, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
I like the idea of getting spindown life counters as party favors for prereleases. Hopefully the trend will stick. I do love me a gud d20 with a purty picture symbol! ;D

Same!  I collect {B} ones.  I really hope they make two-colored guild specific spin-downs with the guild symbol. 

Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 12:30:55 PM

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on July 18, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
I like the idea of getting spindown life counters as party favors for prereleases. Hopefully the trend will stick. I do love me a gud d20 with a purty picture symbol! ;D

Same!  I collect {B} ones.  I really hope they make two-colored guild specific spin-downs with the guild symbol.

I have a bunch of black ones, no white ones though, sad face.

And guild dice would be sick!

Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 12:30:55 PM

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on July 18, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
I like the idea of getting spindown life counters as party favors for prereleases. Hopefully the trend will stick. I do love me a gud d20 with a purty picture symbol! ;D

Same!  I collect {B} ones.  I really hope they make two-colored guild specific spin-downs with the guild symbol.

They are gonna give us guild spin down dice that match the guild colors and symbol.

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on July 18, 2012, 02:22:21 PM
They are gonna give us guild spin down dice that match the guild colors and symbol.

Is this confirmed?  Cause I may have to attend multiple prereleases.  :D

Quote from: BlackJester on July 18, 2012, 02:24:25 PM

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on July 18, 2012, 02:22:21 PM
They are gonna give us guild spin down dice that match the guild colors and symbol.

Is this confirmed?  Cause I may have to attend multiple prereleases.  :D

Yes it was confirmed during the comic-con panel wizards did. You can find it on YouTube now.

Ah man, that makes the decision even harder. It's between rakdos, golgari, and izzet for me. It'll probably come down to who/what the promo is for each.

Quote from: Gorzo on July 18, 2012, 04:33:09 PM
Ah man, that makes the decision even harder. It's between rakdos, golgari, and izzet for me. It'll probably come down to who/what the promo is for each.

Word-for-word same here! 

All the this info is it all from ComicCon or is there's link?

Quote from: Xanzurth on July 19, 2012, 01:24:29 PM
All the this info is it all from ComicCon or is there's link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ52J0i1zp0

So they give you the 20 sided die before you play?

Won't your opponent pretty much know what colors you're running? 😲

Quote from: Ghebert on July 19, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
So they give you the 20 sided die before you play?

Won't your opponent pretty much know what colors you're running? 😲

Only if you have the die out and visible, you don't have to use it!

Quote from: Gorzo on July 19, 2012, 03:10:44 PM

Quote from: Ghebert on July 19, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
So they give you the 20 sided die before you play?

Won't your opponent pretty much know what colors you're running? 😲

Only if you have the die out and visible, you don't have to use it!

True.  But they'll also be giving you a guild sticker.  I'll be wearing mine on my forehead.
So they know what guild you are.  It's a sealed event, and pretty casual too.  If they sideboard differently, or whatever is it really going to be a huge tactical advantage?  They'll know after your first couple of lands anyway.

Hey hey hey. No need to be rude. I was just making a statement. I'm not stupid but you know there are stupid people out there and observant people. One person sees everyone is playing U/R then they will counter it! It's just an observation. I could care less.

I didn't mean to go on the offense, sorry.   :-X  Just, you'll probably know what people are picking during the registration.  I don't know if it'll help.  People may even chose one guild, but change because of their card pool.

Quote from: KangaRod on July 19, 2012, 09:54:16 PM
People don't go to prereleases to win... Do they?

I do.  You get free packs!

Quote from: KangaRod on July 19, 2012, 09:54:16 PM
People don't go to prereleases to win... Do they?

I can't tell if this is sarcasm...

Quote from: KangaRod on July 19, 2012, 09:54:16 PM
People don't go to prereleases to win... Do they?

I generally look forward to goin 0-2 all night!

I wonder what all the UltraPro stuff is going to look like. Maybe they'll release deck boxes and sleeves for the guilds? Wouldn't hate a Azorius Senate playmate.

Quote from: Dudecore on July 20, 2012, 12:02:19 AM
I wonder what all the UltraPro stuff is going to look like. Maybe they'll release deck boxes and sleeves for the guilds? Wouldn't hate a Azorius Senate playmate.

Love love love swag!  Guild specific stuff (sleeves, deck boxes) would be boss!

And I'd love a playmate too.   :-*

Quote from: KangaRod on July 19, 2012, 09:54:16 PM
People don't go to prereleases to win... Do they?

I always want to win atleast two packs when i go, but I'm mainly at the prerelease for fun. However i switch to super competitive pretty easy i found out at this last event. I pulled {stuffy doll} and played it all night without having to say a target, a gesture was enough in such a casual enviroment. However on the last match i tapped stuffy doll and my opponent (someone i played often, but wouldnt call more than an acquaintance) said "you didnt choose a player". That was it, i snapped, looked at him coldly and said "fine then, this wont be an enjoyable match" and stomped him 2-0 and caught every little priority mistake he made. I felt kinda bad after, but he's a grown man, he can deal with it. And it didnt hurt our relationship (what little there is).

Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 20, 2012, 02:08:12 AM

Quote from: KangaRod on July 19, 2012, 09:54:16 PM
People don't go to prereleases to win... Do they?

I always want to win atleast two packs when i go, but I'm mainly at the prerelease for fun. However i switch to super competitive pretty easy i found out at this last event. I pulled {stuffy doll} and played it all night without having to say a target, a gesture was enough in such a casual enviroment. However on the last match i tapped stuffy doll and my opponent (someone i played often, but wouldnt call more than an acquaintance) said "you didnt choose a player". That was it, i snapped, looked at him coldly and said "fine then, this wont be an enjoyable match" and stomped him 2-0 and caught every little priority mistake he made. I felt kinda bad after, but he's a grown man, he can deal with it. And it didnt hurt our relationship (what little there is).

Yeah I go to win packs. It's nice to win a box by paying 30$ since I don't buy packs often.

Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 20, 2012, 02:08:12 AM

Quote from: KangaRod on July 19, 2012, 09:54:16 PM
People don't go to prereleases to win... Do they?

I always want to win atleast two packs when i go, but I'm mainly at the prerelease for fun. However i switch to super competitive pretty easy i found out at this last event. I pulled {stuffy doll} and played it all night without having to say a target, a gesture was enough in such a casual enviroment. However on the last match i tapped stuffy doll and my opponent (someone i played often, but wouldnt call more than an acquaintance) said "you didnt choose a player". That was it, i snapped, looked at him coldly and said "fine then, this wont be an enjoyable match" and stomped him 2-0 and caught every little priority mistake he made. I felt kinda bad after, but he's a grown man, he can deal with it. And it didnt hurt our relationship (what little there is).

I know this scenario well. Its infuriating to see people who want the rules followed to the T but when it's there turn they play kitchen table style. My roommate ripped into a dude pretty heavily for this.

Im going Izzet all the way.


Also, do you think there will be mythic promos?

Quote from: Foodnetwork on July 22, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
Im going Izzet all the way.


Also, do you think there will be mythic promos?

There's a promo for each guild guild, but what rarity is impossible to say. Would be nice to get a mythic like Niv Mizzet himself as the promo, but I'm guessing based on recent past prerelease promos that it'll be a rare "big-wig" of the guild, probably not mythic.  100% speculation.

Quote from: Gorzo on July 22, 2012, 04:38:27 PM

Quote from: Foodnetwork on July 22, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
Im going Izzet all the way.


Also, do you think there will be mythic promos?

There's a promo for each guild guild, but what rarity is impossible to say. Would be nice to get a mythic like Niv Mizzet himself as the promo, but I'm guessing based on recent past prerelease promos that it'll be a rare "big-wig" of the guild, probably not mythic.  100% speculation.

Shock land promos? Hahaha

^^insane.

Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 23, 2012, 09:36:51 PM

Quote from: Gorzo on July 22, 2012, 04:38:27 PM

Quote from: Foodnetwork on July 22, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
Im going Izzet all the way.


Also, do you think there will be mythic promos?

There's a promo for each guild guild, but what rarity is impossible to say. Would be nice to get a mythic like Niv Mizzet himself as the promo, but I'm guessing based on recent past prerelease promos that it'll be a rare "big-wig" of the guild, probably not mythic.  100% speculation.

Shock land promos? Hahaha

Probably also legendary. Assuming they're reprints:
Izzet: {Tibor and Lumia} or {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}
Azorious: {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV} or {Insperia the Inscrutable}
Selesnya: {Chorus of the Conclave} or {Tolsimir Wolfblood}
Rakdos: {Rakdos the Defiler} or {Lyzoldia the Blood Witch}
Golgari: {Savra, Queen of the Golgari} or {Sisters of Stone Death}

Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on July 24, 2012, 12:08:25 AM

Quote from: GoJuDragon on July 23, 2012, 09:36:51 PM

Quote from: Gorzo on July 22, 2012, 04:38:27 PM

Quote from: Foodnetwork on July 22, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
Im going Izzet all the way.


Also, do you think there will be mythic promos?

There's a promo for each guild guild, but what rarity is impossible to say. Would be nice to get a mythic like Niv Mizzet himself as the promo, but I'm guessing based on recent past prerelease promos that it'll be a rare "big-wig" of the guild, probably not mythic.  100% speculation.

Shock land promos? Hahaha

Probably also legendary. Assuming they're reprints:
Izzet: {Tibor and Lumia} or {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}
Azorious: {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV} or {Insperia the Inscrutable}
Selesnya: {Chorus of the Conclave} or {Tolsimir Wolfblood}
Rakdos: {Rakdos the Defiler} or {Lyzoldia the Blood Witch}
Golgari: {Savra, Queen of the Golgari} or {Sisters of Stone Death}

Sisters and augustine r dead according to comic con

I'm predicting all new printings of legendary "big-wigs", no reprints.  For the promos that is.  And I really, REALLY hope that Nivvy makes it to PW status.  Gimmie my Izzet Planeswalker! 

Also, now there's no love for Golgari in the polls.  Interesting development. 

if anything wouldn't an izzet pe be ral zarek?

Quote from: scarsabrex on July 24, 2012, 01:07:31 PM
if anything wouldn't an izzet pe be ral zarek?

I don't know if it would have to be, it's not as though every {U} PW has to be Jace.
I could see them going either way, really.

Quote from: BlackJester on July 24, 2012, 01:14:16 AM
I'm predicting all new printings of legendary "big-wigs", no reprints.  For the promos that is.  And I really, REALLY hope that Nivvy makes it to PW status.  Gimmie my Izzet Planeswalker! 

Also, now there's no love for Golgari in the polls.  Interesting development.

Sorry bro, it was confirmed guild leaders would be legendary creatures. Nivvy is a guild leader. Sorry man.

Won't new jace be {U} {W}? Dimir isn't an option till gatecrash

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on August 03, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
Won't new jace be {U} {W}? Dimir isn't an option till gatecrash

That or {R}{B} if mixed at all. The walkers don't have to follow the trends of the plane.

There is a RTR add I got in a m13 pack that shows Jace standing with Niv Mizzet next to him.
Mahber a {U}{R} Jace Planeswalker?

Quote from: Thorn on August 03, 2012, 12:05:59 PM
There is a RTR add I got in a m13 pack that shows Jace standing with Niv Mizzet next to him.
Mahber a {U}{R} Jace Planeswalker?

It's been spoiled (though I can't remember where exactly) that Jace will be returning in RtR.  Putting him next to Nivy seems to suggest an Izzet {U}{R} alliance, but Jace has always felt more Azorius {W}{U} to me than anything.  They are not going to put him in a guild that won't be in RtR, they'll want him to support a guild.  Yet another mono-{U} would make him more versatile, and I would hate that.  I'd LIKE to see him in Izzet, but it feels off to me.   :-\

There were pics on Zendikar block with Sorin and Nissa together, but they shared no colors.  So I don't know how much weight the Niv connection should carry.

Yeah I do not think theu would make a Izzet Jace but I'm just sharing the information I have.

You think maybe they would make 3 jaces in standard?

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on August 04, 2012, 11:46:17 AM
You think maybe they would make 3 jaces in standard?

Three?
There's only Memory Adept.
Where do you get the other from?

Maybe give jace to {B} and {W}