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Title: Cackiling Counterpart and Transforming Cards
Post by: EvenDeathMayDie on December 11, 2011, 01:17:17 PM
If I cast {Cackiling Counterpart} on a fliped over transforming card does it copy the side that's in play or the one that I would get if I cast the card from my hand? If the later, does it transform back when the condition calls for it?
Title: Re: Crackiling Counterpart and Transforming Cards
Post by: BlackJester on December 11, 2011, 02:10:26 PM
Good question!

The {Cackling Counterpart} copies the card it sees.  So, if the card is flipped it will copy the flipped characteristics. Also, since token don't have another side to transform to, the transform ability will do nothing, the token won't change.
Title: Re: Crackiling Counterpart and Transforming Cards
Post by: EvenDeathMayDie on December 11, 2011, 06:17:24 PM
Thanks, I just wanted to use it correctly. Permanent werewolves !
Title: Re: Crackiling Counterpart and Transforming Cards
Post by: BlackJester on December 11, 2011, 08:04:45 PM
I've seen competitive decks using the {Cackling Counterpart} with {Civilized Scholar} to dump all of your creatures in your gy.
Title: Re: Crackiling Counterpart and Transforming Cards
Post by: EvenDeathMayDie on December 11, 2011, 09:15:47 PM
How does that work?
Title: Re: Cackiling Counterpart and Transforming Cards
Post by: BlackJester on December 11, 2011, 10:47:39 PM
Civilized Scholar says:
T: Draw a card, then discard a card. If a creature card was discarded this way, transform Civilized Scholar, then untap it.

If you copy the Dr. Jekyll here, the copy's ability will have you draw, and discard. If it's a creature card, the copy will try to transform, fail to do so, then untap. Repeat as desired.
Title: Re: Cackiling Counterpart and Transforming Cards
Post by: EvenDeathMayDie on December 12, 2011, 09:28:02 PM
That's amazing, that would work really well in a pseudo reanimater deck using skaab Ruininator and that to fuel your hand and grave yard. Or, use it with Glissa or Unburrial rites or both to send threats to the field turn four :). Thanks for the food for thought!