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Title: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 05:16:23 PM
Can someone make me a budget casual deck that is very very quick.
Try to keep it under $30.
I know that sounds hard but please try it. I would like to see what you guys can come up with.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: BlackJester on July 12, 2012, 05:23:51 PM
4 x {Channel}
4 x {Fireball}
4 x proxy {Black Lotus} (free)
24 x {Mountain}
24 x {Forest}

There you go, T1 win < $30.

Fast, when it works.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
Seriously bj. You know like every single card ever. Can you try for real to help me?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on July 12, 2012, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
Seriously bj. You know like every single card ever. Can you try for real to help me?
Dude {Channel} {Fireball} is a sweet deck.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: BlackJester on July 12, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
Seriously bj. You know like every single card ever. Can you try for real to help me?
What's in it for me? 
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: BlackJester on July 12, 2012, 05:49:42 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 12, 2012, 05:23:51 PM
4 x {Channel}
4 x {Fireball}
4 x proxy {Black Lotus} (free)
4 x {Serum Powder}
22 x {Mountain}
22 x {Forest}

There you go, T1 win < $30.

Fast, when it works.
There.  New and Improved.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Would people even let me proxy 4x {Black Lotus}?
Isnt there anything at all that I could sub forthe lotus?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 07:48:09 PM
Like if I put in {Llanowar Elves} it could be a t-3 win.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Prophylaxis on July 12, 2012, 07:48:45 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 12, 2012, 05:23:51 PM
4 x {Channel}
4 x {Fireball}
4 x proxy {Black Lotus} (free)
24 x {Mountain}
24 x {Forest}

There you go, T1 win < $30.

Fast, when it works.

60x {Chancellor of the Dross}

It works all the time.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Here
4x {Channel}
4x {Fireball}
4x {Wall of Vines}
4x {Overgrown Battlement}
4x {Llanowar Elves}
4x {Wall of Tanglecord}
16x {Mountain}
20x {Forest}
Is this ok?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: #noided on July 12, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
Flash Hulk should do the trick.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Leviathan on July 12, 2012, 08:34:31 PM
Posted one in Casual. Seems easy enough.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
You could buy an event deck. Most of those are pretty nice and they're fnm ready.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: BlackJester on July 12, 2012, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: Gummuh on July 12, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
Flash Hulk should do the trick.
Can you build it for <$30?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Maximo on July 12, 2012, 10:17:06 PM
Jester I want a Legacy deck that consistently wins on t1 and 2 for less than 10 dollars and I want if NOW
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: Maximo on July 12, 2012, 10:17:06 PM
Jester I want a Legacy deck that consistently wins on t1 and 2 for less than 10 dollars and I want if NOW
Dont mock me it hurts my feelings :P
And here,
60x {Proxy}
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
You could buy an event deck. Most of those are pretty nice and they're fnm ready.
I'm looking for something quicker than an event deck because the main decks I face, since my group mainly plays casual are,
Eldrazi, Angels, Lifegain, Dragons.
So something quick can reck all of these.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 12, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
You could buy an event deck. Most of those are pretty nice and they're fnm ready.
I'm looking for something quicker than an event deck because the main decks I face, since my group mainly plays casual are,
Eldrazi, Angels, Lifegain, Dragons.
So something quick can reck all of these.

Lighter fluid and a zippo.  Set their cards on fire t3 and say you miracled a bonfire of the damned. 
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Dudecore on July 12, 2012, 11:20:15 PM
You can make a decent Affinity deck for $30. Ive discussed it before.

Pauper Affinity

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Vault of Whispers}
3 {Darksteel Citadel}
2 {Island}
3 {Great Furnace}
1 {Lonely Sandbar}
4 {Seat of the Synod}
1 {Ancient Den}

18 lands


4 {Frogmite}
4 {Myr Enforcer}
4 {Somber Hoverguard}
4 {Quicksilver Behemoth}

16 creatures


1 {Springleaf Drum}
4 {Thoughtcast}
2 {Serrated Arrows}
2 {Scale of Chiss-Goria}
3 {Chromatic Star}
4 {Chromatic Sphere}
1 {Æther Spellbomb}
4 {Lotus Petal}
2 {Reaping the Graves}
3 {Rush of Knowledge}

26 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Reaping the Graves}
2 {Sunbeam Spellbomb}
2 {Diabolic Edict}
2 {Serrated Arrows}
4 {Hydroblast}
4 {Pyroblast}

15 sideboard cards



Tops out around $40? It's a pauper deck, so everything is printed at Common rarity
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Jbombard51 on July 12, 2012, 11:34:41 PM
That's a solid pauper deck! I'd like to mess around with it myself.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Greg54js on July 12, 2012, 11:37:23 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
You could buy an event deck. Most of those are pretty nice and they're fnm ready.
I'm looking for something quicker than an event deck because the main decks I face, since my group mainly plays casual are,
Eldrazi, Angels, Lifegain, Dragons.
So something quick can reck all of these.
Build an eldrazi deck. It's easier to join them then beat them ;)
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
You think eldrazi is casual?

That sucks.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
You think eldrazi is casual?

That sucks.
The way they play its casual. 
:P
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Greg54js on July 12, 2012, 11:41:57 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
You think eldrazi is casual?

That sucks.
Eldrazi are casual. They aren't standard for godsakes. If they were I'd be {murder}ing people at tournaments
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 11:44:56 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on July 12, 2012, 11:41:57 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
You think eldrazi is casual?

That sucks.
Eldrazi are casual. They aren't standard for godsakes. If they were I'd be {murder}ing people at tournaments

I think he meant casual as in "non playable in legacy"
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 11:46:16 PM
Quote from: Jbombard51 on July 12, 2012, 11:34:41 PM
That's a solid pauper deck! I'd like to mess around with it myself.
Same.
How quick is it?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Rass on July 12, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
B/R deck

{kiln fiend}
Random instant sorcereries
The red double strike spell or artifact
The instant black infect card and I think there is a artifact that does this.
{goblin tunler} or something else that gives unblock able.

I have T3 win with this basic deck
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Greg54js on July 13, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 11:44:56 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on July 12, 2012, 11:41:57 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
You think eldrazi is casual?

That sucks.
Eldrazi are casual. They aren't standard for godsakes. If they were I'd be {murder}ing people at tournaments

I think he meant casual as in "non playable in legacy"
They are though.. Sneak and show anyone??
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 12:04:41 AM
It's really pretty fast. You can do Artifact Land, Artifact. Turn 2, Land, Artifact, Frogmite for free, {Thoughtcast} for {U}, {Frogmite} or anything else free. It's completely upgradable too, if you ever get some money for {Archbound Ravager} or {Blinkmoth Nexus}

Go even faster with {Ornithopter} and {Cranial Plating}, it has some real Legacy potential, and as is, a good Pauper deck.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Silent1236 on July 13, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on July 12, 2012, 11:37:23 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 12, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 12, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
You could buy an event deck. Most of those are pretty nice and they're fnm ready.
I'm looking for something quicker than an event deck because the main decks I face, since my group mainly plays casual are,
Eldrazi, Angels, Lifegain, Dragons.
So something quick can reck all of these.
Build an eldrazi deck. It's easier to join them then beat them ;)

^This lol. 
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 12:17:42 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 12:04:41 AM
It's really pretty fast. You can do Artifact Land, Artifact. Turn 2, Land, Artifact, Frogmite for free, {Thoughtcast} for {U}, {Frogmite} or anything else free. It's completely upgradable too, if you ever get some money for {Archbound Ravager} or {Blinkmoth Nexus}

Go even faster with {Ornithopter} and {Cranial Plating}, it has some real Legacy potential, and as is, a good Pauper deck.

Thanks I might try this.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 12:19:12 AM
Quote from: Rass on July 12, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
B/R deck

{kiln fiend}
Random instant sorcereries
The red double strike spell or artifact
The instant black infect card and I think there is a artifact that does this.
{goblin tunler} or something else that gives unblock able.

I have T3 win with this basic deck

Decklist please?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Gorzo on July 13, 2012, 02:31:06 AM
I threw together a morbid agro standard (all innistrad block actually) deck that costs about 12 dollars and can play casually pretty comparatively. I doubt it'd survive tournament play, but It does just fine casually. I can go get it and make a deck list for you if you want. The only cards in it worth more than 20c are 2x {Mikaeus the Lunarch}, 1 {Mikaeus the unhallowed}, and 2 {Gavony township}s. and Lunarch and gavony are the only cards in the deck that use white, so you can take those out, lose a color, and drop the price of the whole deck to basically the cost of 1 Unhallowed Mickey.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 08:47:12 AM
List?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 12, 2012, 11:20:15 PM
You can make a decent Affinity deck for $30. Ive discussed it before.

Pauper Affinity

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Vault of Whispers}
3 {Darksteel Citadel}
2 {Island}
3 {Great Furnace}
1 {Lonely Sandbar}
4 {Seat of the Synod}
1 {Ancient Den}

18 lands


4 {Frogmite}
4 {Myr Enforcer}
4 {Somber Hoverguard}
4 {Quicksilver Behemoth}

16 creatures


1 {Springleaf Drum}
4 {Thoughtcast}
2 {Serrated Arrows}
2 {Scale of Chiss-Goria}
3 {Chromatic Star}
4 {Chromatic Sphere}
1 {Æther Spellbomb}
4 {Lotus Petal}
2 {Reaping the Graves}
3 {Rush of Knowledge}

26 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Reaping the Graves}
2 {Sunbeam Spellbomb}
2 {Diabolic Edict}
2 {Serrated Arrows}
4 {Hydroblast}
4 {Pyroblast}

15 sideboard cards



Tops out around $40? It's a pauper deck, so everything is printed at Common rarity
1. Why {Lonely Sandbar}?
2. Why all of the color fixing/ramp?
3. What would you add to this?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 01:45:49 PM
1. cycling, and a blue land.
2. They're artifacts to enable Affinity, play quicker and get blue {Thoughtcast}, {Rush of Knowledge}, sideboard spells.
3. I'd add {Cranial Plating} if you're not playing pauper (as its banned) and other better Artifacts (like {Mox Opal}, {Ornithropter})
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 01:45:49 PM
1. cycling, and a blue land.
2. They're artifacts to enable Affinity, play quicker and get blue {Thoughtcast}, {Rush of Knowledge}, sideboard spells.
3. I'd add {Cranial Plating} if you're not playing pauper (as its banned) and other better Artifacts (like {Mox Opal},
{Ornithropter}
What do you think of {Master of Etherium}?
Also thanks for showing me this.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 04:07:41 PM
He's good, if you're playing Legacy {Stoic Rebuttal} isn't a bad counterspell, {Etched Champion}, and if it's casual {Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas} is a slam dunk.

Affinity lends itself to Customizability, you can really tune it the to your playstyle, question is always "how much are you looking to spend?"
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 04:07:41 PM
He's good, if you're playing Legacy {Stoic Rebuttal} isn't a bad counterspell, {Etched Champion}, and if it's casual {Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas} is a slam dunk.

Affinity lends itself to Customizability, you can really tune it the to your playstyle, question is always "how much are you looking to spend?"
A competetive non-standard deck for under $50.00.
Would the list you gave me updated with {Cranial Plating} and {Ornithopter} be playable as a legacy deck?
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 04:59:08 PM
Every Legacy affinity I've ever played against would have 4 {Arcbound Ravager}, 4 {Etched Champion}, 4 {Galvanic Blast}, 2-3 {Mox Opal}.

But they also all have 4 {Cranial Plating} and 4 {Ornithropter}. So it's a good start, and might be good enough in your local meta.

Affinity regularly loses to Merfolk, Burn, Reanimator, and Zoo. It doesn't appear that your friends are running those decks.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Gorzo on July 13, 2012, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 13, 2012, 04:07:41 PM
He's good, if you're playing Legacy {Stoic Rebuttal} isn't a bad counterspell, {Etched Champion}, and if it's casual {Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas} is a slam dunk.

Affinity lends itself to Customizability, you can really tune it the to your playstyle, question is always "how much are you looking to spend?"
A competetive non-standard deck for under $50.00.
Would the list you gave me updated with {Cranial Plating} and {Ornithopter} be playable as a legacy deck?

"Non-standard" is a misleadinding term. Do you mean Legacy? Or more casual/modern? Because from what I understand about legacy is that you big dough to really compete, with "budget" elf decks still running over $150. And the "good" decks are a couple thousand.

Modern/casual is a different story, you can get a good deck going for 50.
Title: Re: Speedy Speedy
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
I am looking for a deck that will not lose pathetically to legacy, modern, or casual decks.