Hello all,
I have a question that came up during a game recently and we could not quite square it.
If a creature with Morph, like {Putrid Raptor} is in play, played facedown as a 2/2 creature, then is killed and sent to the graveyard; may I return him using a card like {Zombie Apocalypse} or would he only count as a 2/2 creature with no type? The same question about a transformed card like {Loyal Cathar} after dying and being transformed, when it dies and if I bring it back does he come back as his original state or as the last, transformed state?
My opponent contended that {Zombie Apocalypse} would not be able to bring {Putrid Raptor} back as he was played facedown as a 2/2. I contended that that is just a function of his ability set and when his zone changed, so did his state, thus allowing him to be brought back as {Putrid Raptor}. I also contended that in the case of the {Loyal Cathar}, for similar reasons , he would come back in his non-transformed state. I may be, and probably am very wrong.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer. :)
I believe you are correct here. The zone change would make the creature 'forget' it was a 2/2 creature, and it would count as its normal self.
putrid raptor yes loyal cathar no.
You are correct. When the morph 2/2 creature dies it goes to the gy but in the gy it's the raptor. It will be the card. Not what it went as. For instance. If I play {Phantasmal Image} and copy {Gisela, Blade of Goldnight}. When the copy dies it GOES to the gy as Gisela. But once it enters the gy it once again becomes an Image.
{Zombie Apocolypse} will bring back the raptor but not the cathar.
Morph creatures are only 2/2 facedown creatures while they are face down on the Battlefield. Anywhere else, they are what is printed on the card.
Similarly, Double-faced Cards (DFC) are only ever "moon-side up" when they are on the BF and have been transformed. Everywhere else, the game only sees their "sunny side up".
And BJ has laid down the law! Move along, people.
I know that it's already been answered, but I just wanted to be perfectly clear about the situation.
Just messing' around BJ. And I don't think anyone really said what you did with enough clarity anyway. Things are too easily confused when not clearly stated.
I didn't say it as clearly as BJ but I got it.
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Thanks everyone. Much appreciated!