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Title: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Gorzo on July 08, 2012, 01:23:17 PM
I'm looking for as many ways as possible to cast sorceries at instant speed. {alchemist's refuge} comes to mind first, but I'm hoping to be casting {R} and {B} sorceries. 3 colors in the deck in no problem, but 4 is iffy.

Does anything come to mind? I can't seem to think of anything.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: smokin terry on July 08, 2012, 02:35:25 PM
If you don't want to have much blue outside of activating the land then  play Jund with birds and {abundant growth}  to activate the land and maybe just a few spells.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Leviathan on July 08, 2012, 03:13:48 PM
{Leyline of Anticipation}
{Tefari, Mage of Zhalfir}
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Willthomjr on July 08, 2012, 03:18:41 PM
Tacking 3 mana onto any sorcery isn't worth it IMO. I can't think of anyway for it to be useable.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: BlackJester on July 08, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
{Quicken}
{Vedalken Orrery}
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Kuberr on July 08, 2012, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 08, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
{Quicken}
{Vedalken Orrery}

Amazing cards!
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: scarsabrex on July 08, 2012, 03:27:40 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on July 08, 2012, 03:18:41 PM
Tacking 3 mana onto any sorcery isn't worth it IMO. I can't think of anyway for it to be useable.

but you don't have to do it per sorcery. just every turn you want to cast them. it pays back well as long as you have enough mana.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Willthomjr on July 08, 2012, 05:43:53 PM
Right. I'm just thinking powerful usable spells are in the 3-6 mana range...so 6-9 mana out still seems unlikely. Unless it's for casual it won't really have any use except for flashing in 1-2 drops to screw up combat.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Cindjor on July 09, 2012, 02:47:41 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on July 08, 2012, 05:43:53 PM
Right. I'm just thinking powerful usable spells are in the 3-6 mana range...so 6-9 mana out still seems unlikely. Unless it's for casual it won't really have any use except for flashing in 1-2 drops to screw up combat.

Or if it's in multiplayer so you have more time to set up your lands hopefully.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Gorzo on July 09, 2012, 06:14:36 AM
Hah, no, I'm looking for a way to cast {Worldfire} at instant speed. Because if you're playing EDH, and you cast {Geistflame} targeting a player with 40~ life, then add {arc trail} targeting 2 more players to the stack. Then you flash in {Worldfire}. All 3 of your opponents die.

It's absurd and highly unlikely, sure, but I want to make it happen! With the cards linked and a 5 color {progenitus} deck with enough mana ramp and tutors, I think I might be able to make it happen
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: BlackJester on July 09, 2012, 10:09:15 AM
{Knowledge Pool} could do that. You could even cheat out the {Worldfire} if you can top deck it before you cast the Pool.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Harmon74 on July 09, 2012, 05:56:48 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 08, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
{Quicken}
{Vedalken Orrery}
BJ is the man!  Get to draw a card too?  {Quicken} is sweet!  He could run just B/R with the {vedalken orrery} though.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Thorn on July 09, 2012, 05:59:35 PM
Or instead of {Geistflame} and {Arc Trail} you could use that deal 3 damage divided as you choose for {2}{R}{R}. Its m13.
(Sorry I always forget card names)
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: adventus on July 09, 2012, 07:27:05 PM
The card you want is {sizzle}
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Gorzo on July 10, 2012, 12:27:34 AM
Quote from: adventus on July 09, 2012, 07:27:05 PM
The card you want is {sizzle}

Also works for starting the chain! Some great suggestions, thanks guys
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: BlackJester on July 10, 2012, 11:02:26 AM
The new {Flames of the Firebrand} would work here as well.  Not as good as {Sizzle} mind you.
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Dstyle1 on July 11, 2012, 10:28:22 AM
Couldn't you use {gut shot} for free, but you only have one in EDH
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Thorn on July 11, 2012, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on July 10, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
{arc lightning} also
Didn't they make something that does the same thing in m13?
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Ghebert on July 11, 2012, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 11, 2012, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on July 10, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
{arc lightning} also
Didn't they make something that does the same thing in m13?

{Flames of the Firebrand}
Title: Re: Giving Sorceries Flash
Post by: Poof on July 11, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
Use djinn of wishes and u can cast any card for 4 mana as long as it's on the top of your library