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Title: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 04, 2012, 02:41:47 AM

U/W Walker Miracle

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Flooded Strand}
4 {Glacial Fortress}
7 {Plains}
9 {Island}

24 lands


4 {Vendilion Clique}

4 creatures


2 {Gideon Jura}
2 {Jace, the Mind Sculptor}
4 {Brainstorm}
3 {Terminus}
1 {Entreat the Angels}
3 {Echoing Truth}
2 {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}
4 {Counterbalance}
4 {Path to Exile}
3 {Devastation Tide}
4 {Sensei's Divining Top}

32 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Sword of Body and Mind}
3 {Batterskull}
4 {Leyline of Sanctity}
3 {Dispel}
2 {Wrath of God}
2 {Elspeth Tirel}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
Inspired by Alex Hayne's deck from the pro tour. Semi-budget.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: Kuberr on July 04, 2012, 02:55:04 AM
It was a great deck and fun to watch!

You need snappys instead of Gideon I think though.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 05, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Edited. Decided to forget budget and go all the way. Seriously thinking about trying to build this. Thoughts?
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: Kuberr on July 05, 2012, 03:17:18 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on July 05, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Edited. Decided to forget budget and go all the way. Seriously thinking about trying to build this. Thoughts?

I know it would probably be expensive, but I would put a playset of snappys.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: Coffee Vampire on July 05, 2012, 03:54:59 PM
I am curious as to why elspeth is in there. It seems like her only useful ability for this deck would be her ultimate. It is great considering you can use it very fast, but it will kill other planeswalkers you have, and also any snappys.

Actually, I think vensor or tamiyo would be a better susbtitute.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: Kuberr on July 05, 2012, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on July 05, 2012, 03:54:59 PM
I am curious as to why elspeth is in there. It seems like her only useful ability for this deck would be her ultimate. It is great considering you can use it very fast, but it will kill other planeswalkers you have, and also any snappys.

Actually, I think vensor or tamiyo would be a better susbtitute.

Tamyio should be mb, but I think elspeth should be sideboard against RDW.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 05, 2012, 05:08:44 PM
I like elspeth because I can gather tokens for a possible win, if I play her right. I will probably side board her.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 05, 2012, 05:11:39 PM
I woul love venser but I am not sure how to fit him in...
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 05, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
Around were I play, there are some pretty strong players, and a couple of people with stuff like playsets of {Force of Will} and the old dualies. My meta is constantly shifting so I am trying to build a deck that I can make a name for myself with, and not spend $1000. I will probably the {Tundra}, {hallowed fountains} and fetch lands. Other than that, will this deck fit the bill? Is it good enought?
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: Thorn on July 05, 2012, 10:56:25 PM
I honestly think that building a deck based on what you draw is not a great idea. It is just to unreliable, to inconsistant to be playable.
However that is only my opinion and as we all know our good friend Alexander Hayne won the pro tour dadalalala...
So the miracle dek is very good but agaisnt other strong decks especially with all if mtg open to you, not limeted to standard, I think a miracle deck will just get shut down.
So I would say first proxy and playtest it then if it works buy it!
Not trying to shut down your idea I'm just giving my opinion.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 05, 2012, 11:04:55 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 05, 2012, 10:56:25 PM
I honestly think that building a deck based on what you draw is not a great idea. It is just to unreliable, to inconsistant to be playable.
However that is only my opinion and as we all know our good friend Alexander Hayne won the pro tour dadalalala...
So the miracle dek is very good but agaisnt other strong decks especially with all if mtg open to you, not limeted to standard, I think a miracle deck will just get shut down.
So I would say first proxy and playtest it then if it works buy it!
Not trying to shut down your idea I'm just giving my opinion.
Actually, that was my opinion at first to, but I did some digging and I have seen a couple of successful miracle legacy at decks at proffesional tournaments. My meta it tough, but not that tough
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 14, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Update
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: cltrn81 on July 15, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
If you are forgoing budget than {venfilion clique}.....goes well with {devestation tide}.  I think Snapcaster is useless in here.  You have counterbalance for control and miracles are too costly to flashback....so your only Snapcaster targets are path to exile, echoing truth, and brainstorm.  Only other suggestion is run Tamiyo over Venser....she offers way more control and usability.....even Gideon Jura would be better in this deck than Venser IMHO.  Last thing is 4 {flooded strand} over the seachromes.  The power to play flooded strand, cast brainstorm to put 2 unneeded cards in your library, then reset your deck with the fetch land is awesome.....or have counter-top in play, respond to opponent casting by using sensei's, if you don't see the right CMC you use the fetch land to reset your deck, and use sensei's again and get another shot at using counterbalance.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 15, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 15, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
If you are forgoing budget than {venfilion clique}.....goes well with {devestation tide}.  I think Snapcaster is useless in here.  You have counterbalance for control and miracles are too costly to flashback....so your only Snapcaster targets are path to exile, echoing truth, and brainstorm.  Only other suggestion is run Tamiyo over Venser....she offers way more control and usability.....even Gideon Jura would be better in this deck than Venser IMHO.  Last thing is 4 {flooded strand} over the seachromes.  The power to play flooded strand, cast brainstorm to put 2 unneeded cards in your library, then reset your deck with the fetch land is awesome.....or have counter-top in play, respond to opponent casting by using sensei's, if you don't see the right CMC you use the fetch land to reset your deck, and use sensei's again and get another shot at using counterbalance.
Acknowledged and updated. I never knew all those dirty tricks you could do with fetch lands...
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 16, 2012, 02:13:02 AM
Tips please.... If I'm dropping $700 on cardboard I want a strong deck....
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: cltrn81 on July 16, 2012, 08:26:19 AM
You may consider 2 entreats instead of just one.  One last tip with sensei's top.  You are running 4 of em so you are likely to draw multiples.  You can pay 1 to use the ability, while the ability is on the stack, tap sensei's to draw a card and put it on top, then rearrange the top 3 cards and put the top further down your deck.
Title: Re: U/W Walker Miracle
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 16, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
I don't want to splash for one card. I also like just one entreat because I only see needing to cast it once. Cast terminus, brainstorm into a massive entreat next turn and remove any creatures the can somehow play.