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Title: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Cindjor on July 02, 2012, 04:39:52 PM
I've been thinking about using this in my fairy deck to control and landlock my opponents. It seems annoying but it's

{cloud of faeries}+{mistbind clique}+{deadeye navigator}

Have the {mistbind clique} champion the faeries then soul bond deadeye to the mistbind clique.  Voila. Free tapping of opponents lands. I think it'd work for multiplayer too.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on July 02, 2012, 05:26:51 PM
That is pretty messed up dude! Lol, awesome though.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Cindjor on July 02, 2012, 05:32:08 PM
Haha thanks. I almost don't wanna run it in my meta because I know my friends will get mad and gang up on me in FFA. Lol
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Quackmaster5 on July 02, 2012, 05:46:42 PM
Couldn't your opponent preempively tap there lands for the mana anyway?
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Maximo on July 02, 2012, 05:48:53 PM
I don't understand. The land tapping ability isn't an ETB thing. How does the navigator's blink keep this up?
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Quackmaster5 on July 02, 2012, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: Maximo on July 02, 2012, 05:48:53 PM
I don't understand. The land tapping ability isn't an ETB thing. How does the navigator's blink keep this up?

He keeps chAmpioning with the other fairy.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Maximo on July 02, 2012, 05:53:33 PM
Ohhh.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Cindjor on July 02, 2012, 05:54:40 PM
I would tap the lands during upkeep or drawstep. They can preemptively tap their lands but they can't play anything but instants.

And I have to champion a fairy when {mistbind clique} ETB or I sac it. When mistbind is exiled with {deadeye navigator} the cloud of faeries that was previously championed comes into play>untaps 2 lands> mistbind comes back to champion the faeries when it ETB. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Quackmaster5 on July 02, 2012, 06:10:17 PM
Good combo just expensive.

This may sound like a stupid question but does the mana pool empty after each phase or at the end of turn? Bc that would make this combo obselete.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: BlackJester on July 02, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Mana now empties at the end of each STEP.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Thorn on July 02, 2012, 10:05:11 PM
Nice combo
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Silent1236 on July 03, 2012, 02:30:44 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 02, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Mana now empties at the end of each STEP.

Honestly didn't know that.  Thanks Jester! Lol
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Cindjor on July 03, 2012, 02:55:09 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on July 03, 2012, 02:30:44 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 02, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Mana now empties at the end of each STEP.

Honestly didn't know that.  Thanks Jester! Lol

I used to use {mishra's helix} in my elfball deck to lockdown lands if I had to, otherwise tapping permanents/lands would be useless. Land control outside of {stasis} obviously.

And yea, it's expensive but I play a lot of multiplayer so it doesn't really matter that it's so "slow". I'd never use this in a duel because it'd only be useful by turn 7-8 IF I got enough land. Lol
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on July 03, 2012, 02:30:44 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 02, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Mana now empties at the end of each STEP.

Honestly didn't know that.  Thanks Jester! Lol
Yeah, it was a fairly recent change, I'm pretty sure it was when they removed mana burn.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 11:46:55 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on July 03, 2012, 02:30:44 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 02, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Mana now empties at the end of each STEP.

Honestly didn't know that.  Thanks Jester! Lol
Yeah, it was a fairly recent change, I'm pretty sure it was when they removed mana burn.  And to clarify, it's at the end of each step and phase.  Use it or lose it.  8)
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Quackmaster5 on July 03, 2012, 11:49:15 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 11:46:55 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on July 03, 2012, 02:30:44 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 02, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Mana now empties at the end of each STEP.

Honestly didn't know that.  Thanks Jester! Lol
Yeah, it was a fairly recent change, I'm pretty sure it was when they removed mana burn.  And to clarify, it's at the end of each step and phase.  Use it or lose it.  8)
That's great to know when I play my land destroy deck. Slimey closet is gunna have fun.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Cindjor on July 03, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
I'm pretty sure even with mana burn from back in the day that mana emptie after each step. It just doesnt "burn" you anymore.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
Quote from: Cindjor on July 03, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
I'm pretty sure even with mana burn from back in the day that mana emptie after each step. It just doesnt "burn" you anymore.
You used to be able to float mana from step-to-step, until the end of the phase.  I don't remember when that changed, though.
Title: Re: Fairy land lockdown
Post by: Druknal on July 03, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
Quote from: Cindjor on July 03, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
I'm pretty sure even with mana burn from back in the day that mana emptie after each step. It just doesnt "burn" you anymore.
You used to be able to float mana from step-to-step, until the end of the phase.  I don't remember when that changed, though.
I believe it changed with M10 Core Set/Alara Block?