White Something 75 cards, 15 sideboard
9 {Plains} 4 {Seachrome Coast} 4 {Glacial Fortress} 4 {Cavern of Souls} 2 {Moorland Haunt}
23 lands
4 {War Falcon} 4 {Champion of the Parish} 4 {Knight of Glory} 4 {Grand Abolisher} 3 {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} 4 {Mirran Crusader} 4 {Silverblade Paladin}
27 creatures
3 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 3 {Faith's Shield} 2 {Sword of War and Peace} 2 {Angelic Destiny}
10 other spells
Sideboard
2 {Revoke Existence} 2 {Faith's Reward} 2 {Divine Deflection} 2 {Hero of Bladehold} 2 {Grafdigger's Cage} 3 {Oblivion Ring} 2 {Celestial Purge}
15 sideboard cards
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You should check out the mtgo hero build on gatheringmagic.com he's running something similar to this build
Made some updates. Let me know what you guys think.
CAVERN OF SOULS CALLING OWLS!!!
More revision made after some testing. Ajani plus Angelics is so nice
Ralia makes angelic so bad though. Casting ajani for four or angelic for five will be an issue
Hasn't happened yet
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 17, 2012, 12:51:43 AM
Hasn't happened yet
But the possibility is there. And it would suck. Since youre running 3 Thalia I think you should be running 24 lands.
EDIT: Actually your mana curve is quite low. This deck looks great actually.
It might need to splash black in the form of Iso chapel for spot removal
Is the only blue in here {Moorland Haunt}?
Just wondering why so many {Seachrome Coast}s and {Glacial Fortress}es.
Since you can only activate Moorland once each turn I'd say just run 4 Glacials 3 caverns 3 moorlands and the rest plains.
I like the deck a lot. The mana base is good as is. And you can call this deck Haunted Soldiers.
I like this deck
I have 90% of this deck now so I'll be testing it over the next few weeks for GENCON next month. I do believe it's got a chance. And yes the UW lands are only for moorland haunts. I am thinking about upping the land to 24 and adding avacyn to he sideboard. Just worried about monoblack and oring/fiend hunters at this point when it comes to her. She might be too hefty for this theme though.
I would add more Mooreland haunts or ditch them. Running duals that can slow your deck down just for 1 card which you only have 2 of. Doesn't make much sense.
I don't want to be stuck with the colorless mana early in the game. Deck has to go off quick or it's a no go
It's okay to just play plains.
Nah I would put in the exalted land over plains if I dropped haunts
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
Nah I would put in the exalted land over plains if I dropped haunts
Which is???
Cathedral of war. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
{Cathedral of war}. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise
Still good for a +1 if you got a creature to swing. I'll take that small downside no prob
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
{Cathedral of war}. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise
Still good for a +1 if you got a creature to swing. I'll take that small downside no prob
Yeah, but in an aggro deck?
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
{Cathedral of war}. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise
Still good for a +1 if you got a creature to swing. I'll take that small downside no prob
That +1 is suboptimal in this case.especially when you can't cast your turn 2 play and swing with your beefed up war falcon that's almost exactly like a flipped delver
I wasn't talking about this deck. Just in general. To note, I've also exclusively played EDH for the past few years. So aggro turn 2 stuff doesn't register with me or matter.
No honor of the pure? In mono white why not?
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind
I'm starting to like {Sublime Archangel} over {Hero of Bladehold}, if you have the ability to make that switch.
Reason being Sublime does something when you cast it, with exalted and all that. Hero gives them another turn to answer it.
However, creature type is fairly relevant, so I can see using hero too.
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind
Grand Abolisher could go into your sideboard and you could put honors in.
No honors???
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind
Grand Abolisher could go into your sideboard and you could put honors in.
The only reason honor isn't in is because I can't fit it in. I can only come up taking out purge and 1 cage and maybe an o ring. That's my initial assessment anyway without testing for it.
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind
Grand Abolisher could go into your sideboard and you could put honors in.
The only reason honor isn't in is because I can't fit it in. I can only come up taking out purge and 1 cage and maybe an o ring. That's my initial assessment anyway without testing for it.
You have to fit it in. There are plenty of things to take out.
Put the grand abolishers in your sideboard and put 4 honors in.
To do that I have to take 4 slots out of he board though. And I like my sb the way it is atm. Plus I think theres way too muh blue in the meta right now to take abolisher out. I'll just keep putting him back in game 2. Plus honor has the chance of casting for 2w because of Thalia. Gotta keep the amount of dudes I play up.
Okay then. You don't have to take our advise.
I'm saying I want to fit in I just dot know what to cut.
Second choice are the {War falcons} doesn't help much on turn 1.
I understand it has a drawback so here's my options for replacement:
Warclamp mastiff
Doomed traveler
Cathedral sanctifier
I think that's pretty much it. The mastiff is what I would most likely replace it with because of Ajani and destiny and sword. Lost of way to take advantage of that first strike.
Sanctifier is ok I guess. Don't know how necessary that three life is
Traveler might be the best bet because of the recursion
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 19, 2012, 12:50:36 AM
I understand it has a drawback so here's my options for replacement:
{Warclamp mastiff}
{Doomed traveler}
{Cathedral sanctifier}
I think that's pretty much it. The mastiff is what I would most likely replace it with because of Ajani and destiny and sword. Lost of way to take advantage of that first strike.
Sanctifier is ok I guess. Don't know how necessary that three life is
Traveler might be the best bet because of the recursion
Unless you have pumps for spirits or anything related to spirits, doomed travelers aren't all that great.
Oh and I forgot about elite vanguard