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Title: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on June 29, 2012, 11:11:25 PM

White Something

75 cards, 15 sideboard


9 {Plains}
4 {Seachrome Coast}
4 {Glacial Fortress}
4 {Cavern of Souls}
2 {Moorland Haunt}

23 lands


4 {War Falcon}
4 {Champion of the Parish}
4 {Knight of Glory}
4 {Grand Abolisher}
3 {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben}
4 {Mirran Crusader}
4 {Silverblade Paladin}

27 creatures


3 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride}
3 {Faith's Shield}
2 {Sword of War and Peace}
2 {Angelic Destiny}

10 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Revoke Existence}
2 {Faith's Reward}
2 {Divine Deflection}
2 {Hero of Bladehold}
2 {Grafdigger's Cage}
3 {Oblivion Ring}
2 {Celestial Purge}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Greenbeats on June 30, 2012, 01:15:45 AM
You should check out the mtgo hero build on gatheringmagic.com he's running something similar to this build
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 02, 2012, 03:55:11 AM
Made some updates. Let me know what you guys think.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Guypocolypse on July 02, 2012, 04:31:08 AM
CAVERN OF SOULS CALLING OWLS!!!
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 16, 2012, 11:33:28 PM
More revision made after some testing. Ajani plus Angelics is so nice
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Agrajagzz9 on July 17, 2012, 12:40:30 AM
Ralia makes angelic so bad though. Casting ajani for four or angelic for five will be an issue
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 17, 2012, 12:51:43 AM
Hasn't happened yet
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Ghebert on July 17, 2012, 10:29:43 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 17, 2012, 12:51:43 AM
Hasn't happened yet

But the possibility is there. And it would suck. Since youre running 3 Thalia I think you should be running 24 lands.

EDIT: Actually your mana curve is quite low. This deck looks great actually.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 17, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
It might need to splash black in the form of Iso chapel for spot removal
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Ghebert on July 17, 2012, 03:07:31 PM
Is the only blue in here {Moorland Haunt}?
Just wondering why so many {Seachrome Coast}s and {Glacial Fortress}es.

Since you can only activate Moorland once each turn I'd say just run 4 Glacials 3 caverns 3 moorlands and the rest plains.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on July 17, 2012, 04:25:36 PM
I like the deck a lot. The mana base is good as is. And you can call this deck Haunted Soldiers.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 17, 2012, 06:21:33 PM
I like this deck
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
I have 90% of this deck now so I'll be testing it over the next few weeks for GENCON next month. I do believe it's got a chance. And yes the UW lands are only for moorland haunts. I am thinking about upping the land to 24 and adding avacyn to he sideboard. Just worried about monoblack and oring/fiend hunters at this point when it comes to her. She might be too hefty for this theme though.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:18:33 AM
I would add more Mooreland haunts or ditch them. Running duals that can slow your deck down just for 1 card which you only have 2 of. Doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:30:44 AM
I don't want to be stuck with the colorless mana early in the game. Deck has to go off quick or it's a no go
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:33:16 AM
It's okay to just play plains.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
Nah I would put in the exalted land over plains if I dropped haunts
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:43:16 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
Nah I would put in the exalted land over plains if I dropped haunts

Which is???
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
Cathedral of war. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
{Cathedral of war}. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise

Still good for a +1 if you got a creature to swing. I'll take that small downside no prob
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 12:53:17 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
{Cathedral of war}. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise

Still good for a +1 if you got a creature to swing. I'll take that small downside no prob

Yeah, but in an aggro deck?
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:56:44 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
{Cathedral of war}. Just saw that it comes in tapped though so I don't think that'd be wise

Still good for a +1 if you got a creature to swing. I'll take that small downside no prob

That +1 is suboptimal in this case.especially when you can't cast your turn 2 play and swing with your beefed up war falcon that's almost exactly like a flipped delver
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Hays413 on July 18, 2012, 12:59:10 AM
I wasn't talking about this deck. Just in general. To note, I've also exclusively played EDH for the past few years. So aggro turn 2 stuff doesn't register with me or matter.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Xanzurth on July 18, 2012, 01:42:53 AM
No honor of the pure? In mono white why not?
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind

Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Phat Max on July 18, 2012, 09:36:38 AM
I'm starting to like {Sublime Archangel} over {Hero of Bladehold}, if you have the ability to make that switch.

Reason being Sublime does something when you cast it, with exalted and all that. Hero gives them another turn to answer it.

However, creature type is fairly relevant, so I can see using hero too.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind

Grand Abolisher could go into your sideboard and you could put honors in.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on July 18, 2012, 03:16:25 PM
No honors???
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind

Grand Abolisher could go into your sideboard and you could put honors in.

The only reason honor isn't in is because I can't fit it in. I can only come up taking out purge and 1 cage and maybe an o ring. That's my initial assessment anyway without testing for it.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Because I'd have to take out Thalia over grand abolisher and she gives me more leverage on the opponent if they don't deal with her right away. I'd rather have an extra turn of beats than get +1 to my turn one play. The goal of this deck is to consistently beat them down before turn 5. Hard to do versus wrath effects and early spot removal. Thalia puts them a turn behind

Grand Abolisher could go into your sideboard and you could put honors in.

The only reason honor isn't in is because I can't fit it in. I can only come up taking out purge and 1 cage and maybe an o ring. That's my initial assessment anyway without testing for it.


You have to fit it in. There are plenty of things to take out.

Put the grand abolishers in your sideboard and put 4 honors in.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 10:49:24 PM
To do that I have to take 4 slots out of he board though. And I like my sb the way it is atm. Plus I think theres way too muh blue in the meta right now to take abolisher out. I'll just keep putting him back in game 2. Plus honor has the chance of casting for 2w because of Thalia. Gotta keep the amount of dudes I play up.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 10:50:53 PM
Okay then. You don't have to take our advise.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 18, 2012, 10:52:50 PM
I'm saying I want to fit in I just dot know what to cut.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 18, 2012, 11:08:48 PM
Second choice are the {War falcons} doesn't help much on turn 1.
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 19, 2012, 12:50:36 AM
I understand it has a drawback so here's my options for replacement:

Warclamp mastiff
Doomed traveler
Cathedral sanctifier

I think that's pretty much it. The mastiff is what I would most likely replace it with because of Ajani and destiny and sword. Lost of way to take advantage of that first strike.

Sanctifier is ok I guess. Don't know how necessary that three life is               

Traveler might be the best bet because of the recursion
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kuberr on July 19, 2012, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: Kaziklu on July 19, 2012, 12:50:36 AM
I understand it has a drawback so here's my options for replacement:

{Warclamp mastiff}
{Doomed traveler}
{Cathedral sanctifier}

I think that's pretty much it. The mastiff is what I would most likely replace it with because of Ajani and destiny and sword. Lost of way to take advantage of that first strike.

Sanctifier is ok I guess. Don't know how necessary that three life is               

Traveler might be the best bet because of the recursion

Unless you have pumps for spirits or anything related to spirits, doomed travelers aren't all that great. 
Title: Re: White Something
Post by: Kaziklu on July 19, 2012, 03:09:35 AM
Oh and I forgot about elite vanguard