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Title: Commander staples
Post by: Nobbert on June 28, 2012, 04:42:03 PM
I'm new to the format, so my knowledge base is limited to Standard really.  That means I use counter spells like {negate} or {cancel}, or destroy spells like {naturalize} that usually get a few chuckles from the more experienced players. So basically what I'm asking is what are some of the most commonly used spells for each color, good blue counter spells, good green ramp spells, good black kill spells, etc.  Typical artifacts (I already know sol ring).
If this thread proves helpful, may it be stickied for posterity?
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 04:48:19 PM
{sensei's divine top}
{sol ring}
Any fetch lands work
{lightning greaves}
{æther vial}
{quicksilver amulet}

Those are all I can think of.
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
Great idea btw
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Thorn on June 28, 2012, 04:53:43 PM
{Counterspell}. BEST CARD!
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Deathstorm on June 28, 2012, 05:15:32 PM
{swift foot boots} are good {dark banishing}
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Kuberr on June 28, 2012, 05:22:27 PM
{Murder} is going to help. (link probably won't work because it's in m13)
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Hays413 on June 28, 2012, 05:25:36 PM
{Command Tower}
{Swiftfoot Boots}
{evolving wilds}
{whispersilk cloak}
{terramorphic expanse}

Tons of others I don't care to list.

But I will say, if you're playing EDH and don't include {Command Tower}, you're doing it wrong
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
{necropotence} is an easy way to abuse 40 life.
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Gorzo on June 28, 2012, 05:39:25 PM
Board wipes board wipes board wipes!
{W} has {Day of judgment}, {Wrath of God}, {Austere Command}, {Akroma's Vengeance}, {Mass Calcify}, {Divine Reckoning}.
{B} has {Life's Finale}, {Black Sun's Zenith}, {Damnation}, etc
{R} has {Comet Storm}, {Blasphemous Act}, {Chain Reaction}, and a bajillion other damage-dealing {fireball} like effects.
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Gorzo on June 28, 2012, 05:49:12 PM
As far as {counterspell} effects, I reccomend counters with added benefits for Commander.  {Spell Crumple} and {Hinder} are the best since they can put a commander away in the bottom of the library. {Spin into Myth} is not a counter but excellent for the same reason. {Counterlash} is a good commander counter. {Forbid} and {spell burst} with their buybacks can be very useful as well.

That reminds me, I forgot {Terminus} for {W} wipes! Goodbye everyone's commanders!
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Gorzo on June 29, 2012, 05:00:54 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on June 29, 2012, 04:26:19 AM
Also, don't forget {capsize} if you're playing blue

Yes. 1000 times yes. {Capsize} is great in commander. And lots of fun. It's fun just to see how many times you can bounce stuff with it before people finally get fed up enough to {counterspell} it.  {Reality Strobe} is fun like that too, but less versatile for the caster unless your deck is capable of manipulating time counters.
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Karrthus on June 29, 2012, 05:55:54 AM
{Aura Shards}, {Nullmage Shepard}, {Time Stop} (for laughs), {Shield of the Oversoul}. Those are some good cards for EDH
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Thorn on June 29, 2012, 07:19:04 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on June 28, 2012, 05:49:12 PM
As far as {counterspell} effects, I reccomend counters with added benefits for Commander.  {Spell Crumple} and {Hinder} are the best since they can put a commander away in the bottom of the library. {Spin into Myth} is not a counter but excellent for the same reason. {Counterlash} is a good commander counter. {Forbid} and {spell burst} with their buybacks can be very useful as well.

That reminds me, I forgot {Terminus} for {W} wipes! Goodbye everyone's commanders!
Wait wouldn't the commander just go back to the command zone?
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Willthomjr on June 29, 2012, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: Thorn on June 29, 2012, 07:19:04 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on June 28, 2012, 05:49:12 PM
As far as {counterspell} effects, I reccomend counters with added benefits for Commander.  {Spell Crumple} and {Hinder} are the best since they can put a commander away in the bottom of the library. {Spin into Myth} is not a counter but excellent for the same reason. {Counterlash} is a good commander counter. {Forbid} and {spell burst} with their buybacks can be very useful as well.

That reminds me, I forgot {Terminus} for {W} wipes! Goodbye everyone's commanders!
Wait wouldn't the commander just go back to the command zone?

To my understanding no. Anytime a commander dies or is exiled its sent back to the commander zone. So bottom of library would work.
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 06:02:47 PM
{Nevinyrral's Disk} for when things get out of hand.
{Pernicious Deed}, {Ratchet Bomb}, {Terminate}, {Sakura-Tribe Elder}, {Tranquility}, {Orim's Chant}, {Orim's Thunder}, {Syphon Mind}, {Syphon Soul}, {Syphon Flesh}, {Grave Pact}, {Damnation}, {Barter in Blood}, {Soul Warden}, {Essence Warden}

My latest fav is {Æther Snap}, gets rid of token swarms, +1/+1 counters, and PWs.
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: Aladormax on June 29, 2012, 07:45:12 PM
Does this work with {dark depths} to remov all of the counters?
Title: Re: Commander staples
Post by: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: Aladormax on June 29, 2012, 07:45:12 PM
Does this work with {dark depths} to remov all of the counters?
👍

Not as good as {Vampire Sexmage}, but it does the job.