Can I use {insurrection} and the {sundial of infinite} to permently steal all the creatures
no
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 27, 2012, 04:22:13 PM
no
Like a BOSS!
"Until end of turn" effects end. Right on the dial.
If he has a mass blink spell then it would work. No need for sundial, just blink the ones you wanna keep.
{Sudden Dissapearence}
doesn't work
Exile all nonland permanents target player controls. Return the exiled cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 27, 2012, 04:40:20 PM
Exile all nonland permanents target player controls. Return the exiled cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
D@mn
Any ideas how to steal all the creatures at once
You can, however, {insurrection} to take all, {sudden disappearance} yourself to exile everything, play a {sundial of the infinite} from your hand after (has to be after or it'd get exiled with sudden disappearance), then tap it at the end step to permanently exile all those insurrected creatures.
Yes, it takes a bajillion mana and exiles all of your own non-land permanents, but it works!
{inktreader nephilim} {cloudshift}
Thanks
{Slave of Bolas} + {Radiate} + {Sundial of the Infinite Combos}
nope sundial exiles the sacrifice trigger.
million deleted a post saying your combo didn't work
Quote from: Deathstorm on June 27, 2012, 04:51:18 PM
Any ideas how to steal all the creatures at once
{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}
he means permanently
Or {sudden dissaperence}
Quote from: Aladormax on June 28, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
Or {sudden dissaperence}
Again no. Sudden Disappearance says:
Quote from: BlackJester on June 27, 2012, 04:40:20 PM
Exile all nonland permanents target player controls. Return the exiled cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
i likr how we've already covered why sudden dissapearance doesn't work.
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 28, 2012, 01:28:49 PM
i likr how we've already covered why sudden dissapearance doesn't work.
IKR? ::) And don't even
think about {Ghostway} either. Same deal.
Ok so I'm a little confused. My understanding of {sundial of the infinite} is that end of turn effects nvr happen. So why won't the orginal combo work?
reminder text includes "this turn and end of turn effects end".
it's not the turn stipulation that is ended it is the actual effect. take {giant growth}. if you use sundial of the infinite the buff will end. same with temporary control effects. they will end because they end at the end of turn and you are ending the turn eith sundial of the infinite.
Right. The trick with the Dial is to look for "At the beginning of next end step [ DO THIS ]." This is a triggered ability, which, if you wait til it goes on the stack, will go 💨poof💨 with the dial.
If you Dial before the trigger, it'll just come around *next* end step. (your opponent's).
Ah I see ok so now I see why Jester is always harping on timing.
So {sudden disappearance} and {sundial of the infinite} would permanently exile your opponents creatures, no? Provided you have proper timing
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on July 01, 2012, 03:02:01 PM
So {sudden disappearance} and {sundial of the infinite} would permanently exile your opponents creatures, no? Provided you have proper timing
Yessiree, Bob!👍
Quote from: BlackJester on July 01, 2012, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on July 01, 2012, 03:02:01 PM
So {sudden disappearance} and {sundial of the infinite} would permanently exile your opponents creatures, no? Provided you have proper timing
Yessiree, Bob!👍
Not just all of their creatures, but all non-land permanents. Goodbye creatures, enchantments, auras, artifacts, AND planeswalkers!
Built a deck around this and {glimmerpoint stag}s, {flickerwisp}s, and {galepowder mage}s, and it is hilarious.
Wow and the cards are relatively cheap this is going in my edh I just need to pick up a sudden disappearance