I control {gideon jura} i use his +2. My opponents turn he attacks with {geist of saint traft} and says the angel can attack me. This doesnt make any sense to me. Please explain
I personally don't get it, but here's the card rulings for Gideon:
The first ability only affects the declaration of attackers. If a creature is put onto the battlefield attacking (thanks to Hero of Bladehold, Preeminent Captain, or the Ninjutsu ability, for example), that creature's controller may choose the defending player or planeswalker that it will be attacking in the normal way.
i believe what they said is true. gideon asks for a declaration of attack at the declare attacker's step. the angel never declares an attack it's just placed attacking, so it may attack anyonr the controller chooses.
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 27, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
i believe what they said is true. gideon asks for a declaration of attack at the declare attacker's step. the angel never declares an attack it's just placed attacking, so it may attack anyonr the controller chooses.
No. Gideon says "all your creatures will attack him" meaning all available attackers must attack him. I'm not sure how that is not clear?
yes but in magic the term "attack" means the declaration of attacking.
Quote from: Kuberr on June 27, 2012, 02:51:08 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 27, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
i believe what they said is true. gideon asks for a declaration of attack at the declare attacker's step. the angel never declares an attack it's just placed attacking, so it may attack anyonr the controller chooses.
No. Gideon says "all your creatures will attack him" meaning all available attackers must attack him. I'm not sure how that is not clear?
I have pasted the direct ruling stating otherwise, Kuberr.
My understanding is that it has to do with the difference between
declaring attackers and putting a creature into play tapped and attacking. Just like putting an aura into play gets past hexproof because it doesn't target.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 27, 2012, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 27, 2012, 02:51:08 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 27, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
i believe what they said is true. gideon asks for a declaration of attack at the declare attacker's step. the angel never declares an attack it's just placed attacking, so it may attack anyonr the controller chooses.
No. Gideon says "all your creatures will attack him" meaning all available attackers must attack him. I'm not sure how that is not clear?
I have pasted the direct ruling stating otherwise, Kuberr.
My understanding is that it has to do with the difference between declaring attackers and putting a creature into play tapped and attacking. Just like putting an aura into play gets past hexproof because it doesn't target.
Sorry didn't see it.
Well that's a way around superfriends! Yay
Quote from: Kuberr on June 27, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
Sorry didn't see it.
Well that's a way around superfriends! Yay
No prob. Posts show up while you're typing.
{Yore-Tiller Niphlim} can pull the same trick with
any of your dead dudes.
Kk ty guys
Gideon will affect all creatures I control, so If on my turn I play a creature with haste after Gideon played his ability, would he still have to attack Gideon?
yes