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Title: Zombies
Post by: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 03:00:18 AM

Zombies

60 cards, 0 sideboard


20 {Swamp}

20 lands


4 {Diregraf Ghoul}
2 {Walking Corpse}
3 {Unbreathing Horde}
4 {Cemetery Reaper}
2 {Ghoulraiser}
1 {Rotting Fensnake}
4 {Skinrender}
3 {Vengeful Pharaoh}
2 {Geth, Lord of the Vault}

25 creatures


2 {Ghoulcaller's Chant}
2 {Doom Blade}
2 {Go for the Throat}
2 {Altar's Reap}
2 {Geth's Verdict}
2 {Endless Ranks of the Dead}
2 {Call to the Grave}
1 {Army of the Damned}

15 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 03:02:55 AM
Thoughts on the deck and possibly sideboard entries. I'm thinking {Nihil Spellbomb} for sure.

Am I a fool if I don't add {Grave Titan}?

Might add {Phyrexian Obliterator} too, just because it's mono black.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: cltrn81 on December 05, 2011, 07:46:28 AM
{Phyrexian Obliterator} is a staple in any mono black deck......didnt you hear?  :). For sure add a 4 drop 5/5 trample that causes peeps to sac permanents.  I run two in my mono black vamp deck...... Just because he is not part of the tribe theme does not mean he does not belong.  I would suggest swapping out those cheesy {rotting fensnakes} but that is an argument for another thread lol that was a joke ;)
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 11:23:37 AM
Yeah you're right. Sideboard ideas? That was my main reason for posting this same deck 5 other people have lol.

Also, I just added the one Fensnake as a joke towards a certain somebody lol. I hope they catch it.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on December 05, 2011, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 03:02:55 AM
Thoughts on the deck and possibly sideboard entries. I'm thinking {Nihil Spellbomb} for sure.

Am I a fool if I don't add {Grave Titan}?

Might add {Phyrexian Obliterator} too, just because it's mono black.

The Obliterator is pretty much all upside in a monoB.  I can't see a reason not to add him.  Staying on theme is important, but not at the risk of leaving out solid cards.  Don't be a slave to your theme.

I don't think I'd call you a fool for not adding the Titan, but it is a powerhouse.  I would give up a {Vengeful Pharoh} slot for one.

I love the addition of Geth.  I didn't know he was a zombie, and I thought he only worked on artifacts.  Double fail for me.  ;_;  I think he'd do well in a U/B mill 'n zombie deck too!

I'm glad to see that you have renders AND snakes working in harmony.  ;)

edit:  yes, I got it.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: Thattallguy on December 05, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
{nim deathmantle}. I know some people don't want to keep four mana available but the +2+2 and intimidate is very handy especially when equipped on a grave titan
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on December 05, 2011, 04:20:28 PM
The only reason I might think twice about the Titan is the sucky feeling you'd get if you had to sac him to the {Call to the Grave}.  But, it wouldn't stop me, I'd think the odds are low.

Well, mana curve might be another reason, too.  But hey, I'm a casual multiplayer Johnny, what do I know about mana curves?   :-X
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 04:51:45 PM
The Deathmantle idea isn't bad to make the Titan a Zombie.

Anyways, I replaced a Geth for a Titan so the mana curve remains unchanged.

Added some sideboard cards too.

Zombies
60 cards, 8 sideboard
20 {Swamp}
20 lands


4 {Diregraf Ghoul}
2 {Walking Corpse}
3 {Unbreathing Horde}
4 {Cemetery Reaper}
2 {Ghoulraiser}
4 {Skinrender}
2 {Phyrexian Obliterator}
2 {Vengeful Pharaoh}
1 {Geth, Lord of the Vault}
1 {Grave Titan}
25 creatures


2 {Ghoulcaller's Chant}
2 {Doom Blade}
2 {Go for the Throat}
2 {Altar's Reap}
2 {Geth's Verdict}
2 {Endless Ranks of the Dead}
2 {Call to the Grave}
1 {Army of the Damned}
15 other spells


Sideboard
2 {Nihil Spellbomb}
2 {Dismember}
2 {Black Sun's Zenith}
2 {Phyrexian Metamorph}
8 sideboard cards
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on December 05, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
Hey!  Where'd the {Rotting Fensnake} go?  ;P
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: Thattallguy on December 05, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 04:51:45 PM
The Deathmantle idea isn't bad to make the Titan a Zombie.

That's what I did in my zombie deck. 4{nim deathmantle} and 4{grave Titan}'s. Works out really well especially when {call to the grave is out}. I also love it when I have a {cemetery reaper} or 2 out cause that will make your Titan even bigger since it becomes a zombie when equipped with the deathmantle.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 09:45:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on December 05, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
Hey!  Where'd the {Rotting Fensnake} go?  ;P

Well it's a decent card for a Zombie deck, but now that I've added the Obliterators it definitely isn't worth it now. Still 4 for a 5/5 with an awesome effect.

Quote from: Thattallguy on December 05, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
That's what I did in my zombie deck. 4{nim deathmantle} and 4{grave Titan}'s. Works out really well especially when {call to the grave is out}. I also love it when I have a {cemetery reaper} or 2 out cause that will make your Titan even bigger since it becomes a zombie when equipped with the deathmantle.

I'll definitely try the deck out and see if it needs it. But I currently only have one Grave Titan in it lol.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on December 05, 2011, 11:28:10 PM
Quote from: MacUser001 on December 05, 2011, 09:45:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on December 05, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
Hey!  Where'd the {Rotting Fensnake} go?  ;P

Well it's a decent card for a Zombie deck, but now that I've added the Obliterators it definitely isn't worth it now. Still 4 for a 5/5 with an awesome effect.


In a mono-black deck, it's hard to justify not putting the Oblit in the four-slot.  That is, if you have them.  :)

As for the snake, I wouldn't expect to see it in this deck.  Since you are running a little light on removal, the {Skinrender} makes more sense here. (See!  I'm not married to the snake.    ;))
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on December 06, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
Where's the {Victim of Night}?

Why no splash blue? It makes the deck 80% more fun.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: MacUser001 on December 06, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
You're very right. I'll see if I have any and add them.

As for adding blue, this is a Standard deck lol. Fun isn't necessarily the idea. I'm looking for something competitive.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: Greg54js on December 06, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
To be honest I'd forget the victim of night and run doomblade because there are a lot of innistrad tribal decks running in standard and victim can't kill their creatures :(
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: MacUser001 on December 06, 2011, 10:36:58 PM
Well it's a local store kind of thing. I think we have one human deck. No Vampires or Zombies.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: Appleguru56 on December 07, 2011, 12:08:49 AM
{rotting fensnake}

>:O
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on December 07, 2011, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on December 07, 2011, 12:08:49 AM
{rotting fensnake}

>:O

???
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on December 11, 2011, 01:53:02 PM
Quote from: MacUser001 on December 06, 2011, 10:36:58 PM
Well it's a local store kind of thing. I think we have one human deck. No Vampires or Zombies.
Then run it!
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on December 11, 2011, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on December 06, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
To be honest I'd forget the victim of night and run doomblade because there are a lot of innistrad tribal decks running in standard and victim can't kill their creatures :(

{Doomblade} can't kill MonoZombies and many Vampires either. {Go for the Throat}.
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: Greg54js on December 11, 2011, 03:10:39 PM
Fair enough blackjester.. I forgot about that one :|
Title: Re: Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on December 11, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on December 11, 2011, 03:10:39 PM
Fair enough blackjester.. I forgot about that one :|

No worries. Besides, it looks like Mac said "No Zombies, No vampires" in the meta, so {Doomblade}, {Victim of the Night}, or {Go for the Throat} are all on the table. Unless Artifact critters are big there.