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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:17:42 PM

Title: Attacking
Post by: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:17:42 PM
At what exact point during the combat phase do attackers tap?
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 26, 2012, 06:18:52 PM
The first part
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: BlackJester on June 26, 2012, 06:19:38 PM
The first part of the Declare Attackers step.

See Basic Rule Book stickied above.
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
So as soon as they are declared as attackers they tap?
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: BlackJester on June 26, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
Yep.  As soon as.
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
So as a response to me declaring a attacker could someone use {gideon's lawkeeper}s ability to tap said attacker?
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Gorzo on June 26, 2012, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
So as soon as they are declared as attackers they tap?

Yes. You declare them, they tap, and they are designated as attackers.

You are not able to declare a creature as an attacker, tap it with/for an ability, and still attack with it though. Unless it has vigilance.
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Gorzo on June 26, 2012, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
So as a response to me declaring a attacker could someone use {gideon's lawkeeper}s ability to tap said attacker?
Technically no, once it's attacking it's attacking for good.  The last chance to tap it is during the declare combat phase, just before attacker declaring phasing
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
I meant after the creature was declared as an attacker could someone use gideon lawkeepers ability to tap that creature and prevent it from attacking
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Gorzo on June 26, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
Quote from: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
I meant after the creature was declared as an attacker could someone use gideon lawkeepers ability to tap that creature and prevent it from attacking

After it was declared as an attacker no. However often people will skip the "declare combat" step, denying their opponent the chance to do their tap effect when they could, so they declare it as attackers are declared instead.

If this happens, let your opponent know you need to know that combat is being declared before he starts sending attackers. And you should let him re-choose how to attack after you tapped one or more of his guys, since that was supposed to happen before he declared attackers.
Title: Re: Attacking
Post by: Knew45 on June 26, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Ok. That clears things up. Thanks.