3 {Island}
4 {Seat of the Synod}
2 {Darksteel Citadel}
3 {Swamp}
4 {Vault of Whispers}
16 lands
4 {Etched Champion}
1 {Memnite}
3 {Ornithopter}
3 {Frogmite}
4 {Signal Pest}
3 {Vedalken Archmage}
2 {Etherium Sculptor}
20 creatures
1 {Mox Opal}
3 {Ponder}
3 {Thoughtcast}
2 {Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas}
1 {Lotus Petal}
2 {Voltaic Key}
1 {Brainstorm}
4 {Go for the Throat}
4 {Cranial Plating}
2 {Howling Mine}
1 {Welding Jar}
24 other spells
Sideboard
4 {Death Wind}
3 {Brainstorm}
4 {Vault Skirge}
4 {Doom Blade}
15 sideboard cards
Notes:
For cockatrice tourney.
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I remember when you said somethig to someone about planeswalkers in legacy not being good....
Snicker snicker looky at what we have here.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 11:38:32 PM
I remember when you said somethig to someone about planeswalkers in legacy not being good....
Snicker snicker looky at what we have here.
Tezzeret isn't a planeswalker. He's a gangster god.
There's a difference. ;)
Pw are good in legacy. Ie JTMS, Lilly, and elspeth. On some occasions garruk relentless can find a home.
This looks like an affinity deck that doesn't use affinity. This better be fast cause i don't think this deck can grind until u see tezz.
This deck tends to win most often with {Vault Skirge} + {Cranial Plating}, or is that just in my experience?
He has the sludges in the side though
Quote from: TBNL on June 29, 2012, 03:57:04 AM
This deck tends to win most often with {Vault Skirge} + {Cranial Plating}, or is that just in my experience?
Skirge sometimes.
The champs with cranial playing pretty much win game. I can sometimes get champ out turn one play cranial plating and equip turn two. Thats pretty much all she wrote.
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Skirge sometimes.
The champs with cranial playing pretty much win game. I can sometimes get champ out turn one play cranial plating and equip turn two. Thats pretty much all she wrote.
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With only 1 mox and 1 petal how often is sometimes?
Quote from: Dstyle1 on June 29, 2012, 12:35:23 PM
Skirge sometimes.
The champs with cranial playing pretty much win game. I can sometimes get champ out turn one play cranial plating and equip turn two. Thats pretty much all she wrote.
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With only 1 mox and 1 petal how often is sometimes?
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There restricted broheme. Gotta make it work! Can't be telling you all my secrets now. ;)
Petal is but mox seems to be legal with no restrictions in all formats.
Is it really.
{lotus petal} and {Mox opal} are not restricted on Legacy
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 29, 2012, 02:05:40 PM
{lotus petal} and {Mox opal} are not restricted on Legacy, broheme
Fixed. ;)
Lol
My deck is supposed to be vintage. Just took out the {Tolarian Academy} so I could play it in the tourney. I'm used to vintage rules. Which I looked and Mox opals are not banned nor restricted. So yeah. I don't think I would run more than 2 though. Considering its legendary.
(lotus petal is restricted in vintage)
{Delver of Secrets}.
{go for the throat}
{umezawa jitte} counters?
Quote from: Dstyle1 on June 30, 2012, 10:27:19 AM
{umezawa jitte} counters?
Thought about it, but it's too slow.
Turn 2 {Cranial plating} on turn one {Etched Champion}. Pretty nasty.
Quote from: Kuberr on June 30, 2012, 02:29:02 PM
Quote from: Dstyle1 on June 30, 2012, 10:27:19 AM
{umezawa jitte} counters?
Thought about it, but it's too slow.
Turn 2 {Cranial plating} on turn one {Etched Champion}. Pretty nasty.
That's nasty giving the small percent chance of it happening. What do you have against turn 1 e.tutor. Into turn 2 serenity? Then into stoneforge for jitte?
Dude, affinity is quick but it's hated out pretty easily. Just letting you know. I only give you crap because of the title. GL in the tourney.
Ps tetso thought his dredge was quick but without the nuts draw decks can win against anything.
I don't play this in legacy brah. I had to take cards out so I could play in the Legacy cockatrice tourney. lol funny guy. Most of my turn 1's were taken out because they're banned in Legacy. :D
Thinking of adding two {Death Stroke} replacing doom blades.
Also. Thinking of adding {Counterspell} to the sideboard for protection against board whipes.
Thoughts?
It's your deck mate. But honestly I like {Dismember} or {Go for the Throat} better than {Death Stoke} because you have to wait for your opponent to tap.
Quote from: Kuberr on July 02, 2012, 02:45:25 AM
Thinking of adding two {Death Stroke} replacing doom blades.
Also. Thinking of adding {Counterspell} to the sideboard for protection against board whipes.
Thoughts?
How are they in this format? Isn't their better than UU counter? Or is that the best one?
I only ask because I remember someone saying most good legacy decks win t4 or less. I can't think of a board wipe that's less than 4 mana. {daze}? {force of will}?
FoW is great.
If you have 60$ to spend on each of then. Lol
Quote from: Kuberr on July 02, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
FoW is great.
If you have 60$ to spend on each of then. Lol
Besides, you do not have enough blue cards to gaurantee the alternate FoW cost......which is what makes it do effective ;)
If you're going for speed, {Mana Leak} is more consistent in fast, multicolor decks, IMHO. Don't use {Death Stroke}, though. Sorcery speed is sub-optimal.
Quote from: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
If you're going for speed, {Mana Leak} is more consistent in fast, multicolor decks, IMHO. Don't use {Death Stroke}, though. Sorcery speed is sub-optimal.
I thought of having some {Counterspell} but I wasn't sure {U}{U} was a good idea. But after playing a few games, I've noticed I'm never screwed for blue mana. I was thinking of just throwing this in the sideboard. Death stroke was just a thought, but it is sub par, as you say, so I plan on just running that counter.
If only I could get a Mox jet.
{Dismember} and {Go for the Throat} were good suggestions too. I don't think I like {1}{B}{B} for {Murder} though.
Quote from: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
{Dismember} and {Go for the Throat} were good suggestions too. I don't think I like {1}{B}{B} for {Murder} though.
I have a play set of the go for the throats and 2 doomblades in my sideboard.
Quote from: BlackJester on July 03, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
{Dismember} and {Go for the Throat} were good suggestions too. I don't think I like {1}{B}{B} for {Murder} though.
{murder} would not have been OP if it was just {B}{B} IMO. I think that 3 CMC makes it worthless. White gets artifact/enchantment removal and the best creature removal spells in the game WTF????
I'm honestly not really experiencing any problems with removal, just the board whipes kill me.
Ctrl, what are your oppinions about {Counterspell}?
Quote from: Kuberr on July 03, 2012, 07:22:42 PM
I'm honestly not really experiencing any problems with removal, just the board whipes kill me.
Ctrl, what are your oppinions about {Counterspell}?
Considering you only have 7 land and 2 other artifacts to make blue mana......{mana leak} may be your best option. Especially since a board wipe generally will not be leaving your opponent with 3 mana open.
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 03, 2012, 07:30:43 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 03, 2012, 07:22:42 PM
I'm honestly not really experiencing any problems with removal, just the board whipes kill me.
Ctrl, what are your oppinions about {Counterspell}?
Considering you only have 7 land and 2 other artifacts to make blue mana......{mana leak} may be your best option. Especially since a board wipe generally will not be leaving your opponent with 3 mana open.
That's what I was thinking.
Okay. So after legacy play last night, I will keep the {Counterspell} in here. Works wayyyyy better than {Mana Leak}. I traded for two counters, and had to buy 2 FoW :(
Quote from: Kuberr on July 04, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
Okay. So after legacy play last night, I will keep the {Counterspell} in here. Works wayyyyy better than {Mana Leak}. I traded for two counters, and had to buy 2 FoW :(
Why does it work way better? Just curious. I mean I get that it's just counter the
Quote from: Willthomjr on July 04, 2012, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 04, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
Okay. So after legacy play last night, I will keep the {Counterspell} in here. Works wayyyyy better than {Mana Leak}. I traded for two counters, and had to buy 2 FoW :(
Why does it work way better? Just curious. I mean I get that it's just counter the
End game mana leaks are almost useless in legacy as mana can be produced fairy easily.
The two blue isn't that hard to get with the Moxes.
Quote from: Kuberr on July 04, 2012, 02:12:23 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on July 04, 2012, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 04, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
Okay. So after legacy play last night, I will keep the {Counterspell} in here. Works wayyyyy better than {Mana Leak}. I traded for two counters, and had to buy 2 FoW :(
Why does it work way better? Just curious. I mean I get that it's just counter the
End game mana leaks are almost useless in legacy as mana can be produced fairy easily.
The two blue isn't that hard to get with the Moxes.
We thought you'd be killing them
before end game. You know, since you're Faster Than Ours. ;)
Like you said. There's always answers to answers to answers. I am trying to make it so I have that very last answer.
Such as. Kill my champs, vaultskirge with cranial plating. Board whipe? Tezzeret kills. They have some big dudes out, go for the throat. Board whipe with no tezzeret, bonfire me?! Counterspell stops that.
:) went up against a pro legacy player last night. Full set up of playsets of unlimited dual lands and jitte. Nasty nasty. Held him for quite some time. But he turned off a lot of my kill plans. Sideboarded Counterspell. Won.
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