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Title: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on June 21, 2012, 12:45:48 AM
{wild defiance}

-does the ability stack multiple times like say I target my creature with a sorcery then an instant that buff it, will my creature get +6+6 or does it just get one +3+3?

-also if my opponent counters my instant or sorcery does my creature still get the +3+3?

-and lastly what if I control multiple wild defiances? Do I get multiple +3+3 buffs?
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: GoJuDragon on June 21, 2012, 12:47:48 AM
Will stack (+6/+6)
Yes
and yes
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Richardalcala on June 21, 2012, 12:56:03 AM
Each time it is targeted it will get 3/3 boost. Let's say my opponent cast {dismember} that's a boost. Then in response I cast {apostles blessing} that's another boost. Essentially an oppent well be scared to take out you creature because he will just give it a nice boost.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Willthomjr on June 21, 2012, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on June 21, 2012, 12:56:03 AM
Each time it is targeted it will get 3/3 boost. Let's say my opponent cast {dismember} that's a boost. Then in response I cast {apostles blessing} that's another boost. Essentially an oppent well be scared to take out you creature because he will just give it a nice boost.

If you response with giving protection from black, then their spell fizzles so yøū wouldn't get the extra +3+3 correct? If your creature has pro black it can't be targeted, right?
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on June 21, 2012, 02:15:55 AM
Thanks for the answers guys
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: BadLuckIrish on June 21, 2012, 02:27:25 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 21, 2012, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on June 21, 2012, 12:56:03 AM
Each time it is targeted it will get 3/3 boost. Let's say my opponent cast {dismember} that's a boost. Then in response I cast {apostles blessing} that's another boost. Essentially an oppent well be scared to take out you creature because he will just give it a nice boost.

If you response with giving protection from black, then their spell fizzles so yøū wouldn't get the extra +3+3 correct? If your creature has pro black it can't be targeted, right?
It was casted. Thats all that matters. Countering it would give it another boost too.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on June 21, 2012, 02:42:25 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 21, 2012, 02:27:25 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 21, 2012, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on June 21, 2012, 12:56:03 AM
Each time it is targeted it will get 3/3 boost. Let's say my opponent cast {dismember} that's a boost. Then in response I cast {apostles blessing} that's another boost. Essentially an oppent well be scared to take out you creature because he will just give it a nice boost.

If you response with giving protection from black, then their spell fizzles so yøū wouldn't get the extra +3+3 correct? If your creature has pro black it can't be targeted, right?
It was casted. Thats all that matters. Countering it would give it another boost too.
It has to be targeted for the boost. Blessing will stop {dismember} from targeting the creature.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: BadLuckIrish on June 21, 2012, 02:47:22 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 21, 2012, 02:42:25 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 21, 2012, 02:27:25 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 21, 2012, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on June 21, 2012, 12:56:03 AM
Each time it is targeted it will get 3/3 boost. Let's say my opponent cast {dismember} that's a boost. Then in response I cast {apostles blessing} that's another boost. Essentially an oppent well be scared to take out you creature because he will just give it a nice boost.

If you response with giving protection from black, then their spell fizzles so yøū wouldn't get the extra +3+3 correct? If your creature has pro black it can't be targeted, right?
It was casted. Thats all that matters. Countering it would give it another boost too.
It has to be targeted for the boost. Blessing will stop {dismember} from targeting the creature.
didnt look at the card. Was thinking of another that gets boosted when someone plays a card..
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on June 21, 2012, 02:50:10 AM
The creature will still get pumped because it was chosen as a target.  Wild defiance activates as soon as a target is chosen not after it resolves
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Gorzo on June 21, 2012, 03:53:59 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on June 21, 2012, 02:50:10 AM
The creature will still get pumped because it was chosen as a target.  Wild defiance activates as soon as a target is chosen not after it resolves

Correct. Wild Defiance triggers right when the targeting effect (the dismember in this case) is added to the stack, and wild defiance's trigger is immediately added to the stack on to of it. Even if that {dismember} gets {cancel}led, that {wild defiance} trigger that it had added is still on the stack and will resolve.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Sagemaster on June 21, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 21, 2012, 02:47:22 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 21, 2012, 02:42:25 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 21, 2012, 02:27:25 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 21, 2012, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on June 21, 2012, 12:56:03 AM
Each time it is targeted it will get 3/3 boost. Let's say my opponent cast {dismember} that's a boost. Then in response I cast {apostles blessing} that's another boost. Essentially an oppent well be scared to take out you creature because he will just give it a nice boost.

If you response with giving protection from black, then their spell fizzles so yøū wouldn't get the extra +3+3 correct? If your creature has pro black it can't be targeted, right?
It was casted. Thats all that matters. Countering it would give it another boost too.
It has to be targeted for the boost. Blessing will stop {dismember} from targeting the creature.
didnt look at the card. Was thinking of another that gets boosted when someone plays a card..
When you cast it you target so with apostles blessing and dismember the creature would get +6/+6 because it became a target. The blessing just prevents it from being a legal target and makes dismember fizzle
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Maximo on June 22, 2012, 12:00:37 AM
Basically, if a spell LOOKS at your creature funny, it's gonna get all beefed up, regardless of what happens next.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Nobbert on June 22, 2012, 01:41:06 AM
Quote from: Maximo on June 22, 2012, 12:00:37 AM
Basically, if a spell LOOKS at your creature funny, it's gonna get all beefed up, regardless of what happens next.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Druknal on June 22, 2012, 02:06:07 AM
If you play right {Wild Defiance} is a turn 4 win even with just a {Birds of Paradise} as the attacking creature.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Willthomjr on June 22, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
Quote from: Druknal on June 22, 2012, 02:06:07 AM
If you play right {Wild Defiance} is a turn 4 win even with just a {Birds of Paradise} as the attacking creature.
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You mean perfect hand?

Easiest way is with infect
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: Jdogtoocool on June 22, 2012, 04:43:37 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 22, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
Quote from: Druknal on June 22, 2012, 02:06:07 AM
If you play right {Wild Defiance} is a turn 4 win even with just a {Birds of Paradise} as the attacking creature.
[/quote

You mean perfect hand?

Easiest way is with infect

Yup all of my questions are all related to my infect deck I'm using tomorrow for FNM
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: BlackJester on June 22, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
Quote from: Maximo on June 22, 2012, 12:00:37 AM
Basically, if a spell LOOKS at your creature funny, it's gonna get all beefed up, regardless of what happens next.
It works just like {Phantasmal Bear}.
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: scarsabrex on June 22, 2012, 11:08:34 AM
but only with spells
Title: Re: Wild Defiance questions
Post by: BlackJester on June 22, 2012, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 22, 2012, 11:08:34 AM
but only with spells
Yes, thank you for pointing that out.