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Title: Descent into Madness
Post by: Kareason on June 20, 2012, 05:23:11 PM
{Descent into Madness}

Is it just me or is this card almost completely worthless?  I have pulled 3 so far and honestly can't think of a situation where I might want to use it.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Nobbert on June 20, 2012, 05:25:09 PM
It is like {stasis} + a board wipe might be fun for edh just to screw with people
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Greg54js on June 20, 2012, 05:25:45 PM
Hey if you're not going to use them I'll take em off your hands
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Coffee Vampire on June 20, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
 I think when wizards makes a 50 cent MYTHIC RARE, they fail just as much as when they make a mythic rare that gets banned.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Kareason on June 20, 2012, 05:27:37 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on June 20, 2012, 05:25:09 PM
It is like {stasis} + a board wipe might be fun for edh just to screw with people

I had a {Stasis} deck back in the day. I hated it. And this was before they beat {Winter Orb} to death with the Neft bat.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Silent1236 on June 20, 2012, 05:28:09 PM
I've always seen Descent as a troll mythic.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Kareason on June 20, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 20, 2012, 05:25:45 PM
Hey if you're not going to use them I'll take em off your hands

I might consider it. I am going to try to see what I can do but I honestly think it is about as horrible as they come.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Nobbert on June 20, 2012, 05:29:33 PM
You could put it in your {helvault} deck. Another great mythic
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Greg54js on June 20, 2012, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: Kareason on June 20, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 20, 2012, 05:25:45 PM
Hey if you're not going to use them I'll take em off your hands

I might consider it. I am going to try to see what I can do but I honestly think it is about as horrible as they come.
I actually have a deck Idea :)
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Kareason on June 20, 2012, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on June 20, 2012, 05:29:33 PM
You could put it in your {helvault} deck. Another great mythic

Actually I can see that being played with Urzatron/Loci where mana isn't really a problem. Though I grant it is a niche at best.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Mentonin on June 20, 2012, 06:18:34 PM
Or at a token deck, it plays nicely, u sacrifice tokens, until your opponent is weak enough for you to sacrifice the madness. It has to have a whole deck built into it, though, so...
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Maximo on June 20, 2012, 08:42:28 PM
{The Cheese Stands Alone}
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Richardalcala on June 20, 2012, 10:21:19 PM
Well at least the art is cool.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 20, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
GAHHHHHHH bad luck!!! I just got a pack of avacyn in those Walmart three packs today. Guess what I got in it???? Ballsack!
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Kareason on June 21, 2012, 12:15:24 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 20, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
GAHHHHHHH bad luck!!! I just got a pack of avacyn in those Walmart three packs today. Guess what I got in it???? Ballsack!

I pulled 3 out of 2 Fatpacks...so yeah.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Silent1236 on June 21, 2012, 12:17:31 AM
Quote from: Maximo on June 20, 2012, 08:42:28 PM
{The Cheese Stands Alone}

Lol this^
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: BadLuckIrish on June 21, 2012, 12:19:19 AM
 {Mist Hollow Griffin}  maybe? The only thing i can think of
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Tetsomori on June 21, 2012, 03:01:34 AM
{smallpox} + descent isnt a bAd deck its just meant to slow them down and control them until you has your combo to win. {havengul lich} + {heartless summoning} + {priest of urabosk} = lots of red mana.. Then {devils play} or {fireball} or {bonfire of the damned} them for 5000 XD
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: BlackJester on June 21, 2012, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on June 21, 2012, 12:17:31 AM
Quote from: Maximo on June 20, 2012, 08:42:28 PM
{The Cheese Stands Alone}

Lol this^
{Barren Glory} for black-border landers.   :P
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 21, 2012, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on June 21, 2012, 12:17:31 AM
Quote from: Maximo on June 20, 2012, 08:42:28 PM
{The Cheese Stands Alone}

Lol this^
{Barren Glory} for black-border landers.   :P

Good idea! But which would occur first? The barren or the madness? Could you choose the order?
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: scarsabrex on June 21, 2012, 02:38:14 PM
you would have to wait an entire turn after descent into madness cleaned up everything else. also you would have to have a perfect number of permanents.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Maximo on June 21, 2012, 02:39:37 PM
You'd have to time it juuuuust right because of the steadily increasing sacrificing
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
Ya but what happens first? Bc you have to exile and check for the win at the same time?
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: BlackJester on June 21, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
Ya but what happens first? Bc you have to exile and check for the win at the same time?
You put them on the stack in the order of your choosing.  Probably Barren on the bottom, but hey, I'm not going to play your deck for you.   :P
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 03:36:28 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 21, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
Ya but what happens first? Bc you have to exile and check for the win at the same time?
You put them on the stack in the order of your choosing.  Probably Barren on the bottom, but hey, I'm not going to play your deck for you.   :P

Haha of course the bottom but I wasn't sure if you were able to choose the order or there was a certain priority assigned to one of them based on the conditions.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: scarsabrex on June 21, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 21, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
Ya but what happens first? Bc you have to exile and check for the win at the same time?
You put them on the stack in the order of your choosing.  Probably Barren on the bottom, but hey, I'm not going to play your deck for you.   :P

jester i don't think barren glory will even trigger unless you have the 0 other permanents.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: scarsabrex on June 21, 2012, 04:11:06 PM
and to complicate matters you have to get rid of the card you drew the turn you exiled descent into madness
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 04:11:59 PM
That is very true! Bc you'd need enough counters to exile your lands, exile all enchantments other than barren. I don't you'd get enough counters unless you decide to not do anything for a couple of turns, but even then it would spiral into an outrageous number by then. You'd need to calculate from before you even play the madness what you are gunna do.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Wally on June 21, 2012, 04:15:35 PM
Could it work with suspend?
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: scarsabrex on June 21, 2012, 04:17:21 PM
it can work without suspend as well, it's all about timing.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 21, 2012, 04:37:04 PM
Ya it would be a very VERY complex deck design. But if you were to win with that combo the right way.....woah. That's all I gotta say.
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: scarsabrex on June 21, 2012, 04:41:31 PM
better off using worldfire and suspending barren glory before the bigboom
Title: Re: Descent into Madness
Post by: Sagemaster on June 21, 2012, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on June 20, 2012, 05:28:09 PM
I've always seen Descent as a troll mythic.
I think they made it so that people who pulled it would go into a {Descent of Madness}😂😂😂