Can the {wolfir avenger} regen from a infect -7/-7. Not sure. Thanks in advance.
Cool. I let it ride that way just wasn't sure. I tend to play in there favor if I don't know. Thanks.
Quote from: Millionlittlee on June 17, 2012, 05:50:57 PM
Part of regenerate is to remove all counters from the card
This is false. When a creature is regenerated it doesn't lose any counters.
Example, fnm a couple weeks ago I had an opponent regenrate a {blood flow conniesuer} and I called the judge for actual ruling. He informed me that the creature doesn't lose it's counters or actually go to the GY
So to answer the op question, the avenger would die.
Now I am just confused. I do appreciate the input though.
Regenerate does not remove the -1/-1 counters off the creatures because it doesn't enter the GY.
704.5f If a creature has toughness 0 or less, it's put into its owner's graveyard. Regeneration can't replace this event.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 17, 2012, 06:02:54 PM
704.5f If a creature has toughness 0 or less, it's put into its owner's graveyard. Regeneration can't replace this event.
Rules quote FTW! 👍
So what is the purpose of regen then?
Quote from: Richardalcala on June 17, 2012, 10:52:08 PM
So what is the purpose of regen then?
Let's say your creature dies from combat damage or a spell that doesn't specify "cannot regenerate". Then yøū can bring it back.
damage
{incinerate} versus {doom blade}
Incinerate vs doom blade? What do u mean by that? Regenerate also works against destruction not just damage. Doom blade or even day of judgement can't kill a creature if it has it's regenerate shield up already
Quote from: Poof on June 18, 2012, 03:04:30 AM
Incinerate vs doom blade? What do u mean by that? Regenerate also works against destruction not just damage. Doom blade or even day of judgement can't kill a creature if it has it's regenerate shield up already
That's very true
Quote from: Poof on June 18, 2012, 03:04:30 AM
Incinerate vs doom blade? What do u mean by that? Regenerate also works against destruction not just damage. Doom blade or even day of judgement can't kill a creature if it has it's regenerate shield up already
Please read what I said. I specifically said that a creature can regenerate unless a card says otherwise. OBVIOUSLY I was making an example. Can regenerate from doomblade, CANNOT from incinerate.
I got it loud and clear :)
I think most people have a problem with this because of the way {regenerate} is worded. They see "remove all damage" and instinctively want to remove the negative counters since that is the way a creature with infect "deals damage"
I can see why it could be confused. I believe infect cards say they deal their damage as -1/-1 counters. Perception varies.
techinically it is damage. But because its -1/-1 counters they stay on a regenerated creature because as someone said before it didnt go to the graveyard.
Undying vs Infect...GG
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 18, 2012, 01:32:10 PM
techinically it is damage. But because its -1/-1 counters they stay on a regenerated creature because as someone said before it didnt go to the graveyard.
Undying vs Infect...GG
depends on the situation. there are just as many times when infect will put down undying for good as not.
The trick with this is that regeneration is that it creates a shield. This shield "pops" when a creature would be destroyed. Reducing a creature's P/T to 0/0 is not destroying it, it's a different State-based Effect.