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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Silent1236 on June 17, 2012, 02:39:11 PM

Title: Infect and Undying
Post by: Silent1236 on June 17, 2012, 02:39:11 PM
My friend had a {Strangleroot Geist} out, and I killed it and the Undying activated.  Then, next turn, he attacks with it again.  I block with my 2/2 infect, does the -1/-1 counter remove the +1/+1 or does it make it so the Geist has 1 +1/+1 and 2 -1/-1's?  Would the undying trigger again or would the Geist die?
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 17, 2012, 02:39:50 PM
Undying triggers again
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:40:12 PM
geist dies for good.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 17, 2012, 02:40:50 PM
I call for jester
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Silent1236 on June 17, 2012, 02:41:19 PM
Which is it????  lol
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Kuberr on June 17, 2012, 02:41:24 PM
I agree with scars. It would kill it.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
rule 704.7 to correct those who disagree with me.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Silent1236 on June 17, 2012, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: Rokitchikin on June 17, 2012, 02:41:08 PM
It would remove the +1/+1 then add a -1/-1. Which would reduce the toughness to 0 and destroy it. Then undying would trigger again.
It would come back because of undying.  It just says "When this creature dies."  So putting a -1/-1 on it would still "kill" it, would it not?
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Silent1236 on June 17, 2012, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
rule 704.7 to correct those who disagree with me.
Awesome!  Thanks! :D
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:44:54 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
rule 704.7 to correct those who disagree with me.

and for those who fail to read
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 17, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
I win
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Rokitchikin on June 17, 2012, 02:47:07 PM
Retract all previous statements thanks scars.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: Millionlittlee on June 17, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
I win

you called jester... I answered. you most certainly did not win.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 17, 2012, 02:49:12 PM
I said it first and I called jester because I didn't know the rule number
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 17, 2012, 02:49:34 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: Millionlittlee on June 17, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
I win

you called jester... I answered. you most certainly did not win.

Ya the rule is saying that you are wrong. So I don't see that as a win
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Kuberr on June 17, 2012, 02:50:57 PM
Lol this guy.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 17, 2012, 02:50:57 PM
Lol this guy.

ikr?
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 17, 2012, 02:53:09 PM
....unless I missed the memo about opposite day!!!! Damn you google calendars!!!!
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:56:14 PM
it's ok guys this is the same person who said sorin markov and sorin's vengeance planeswalker ruled themselves.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Kuberr on June 17, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 02:56:14 PM
it's ok guys this is the same person who said sorin markov and sorin's vengeance planeswalker ruled themselves.

He did what????
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Coffee Vampire on June 17, 2012, 03:02:08 PM
It's over, I am pretty sure the question of this thread has been answered. Not to be damper on the fun you guys seem to be having but it seems we are just making fun of people now. Time to move on maybe?
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 03:02:22 PM
go into combo corner and find the combo sorin's puzzle. it's on the first page i think. read the discussion.
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Silent1236 on June 17, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 17, 2012, 03:02:08 PM
It's over, I am pretty sure the question of this thread has been answered. Not to be damper on the fun you guys seem to be having but it seems we are just making fun of people now. Time to move on maybe?

This^    -_-  I got my answer a while ago
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: Imdowd80 on June 17, 2012, 06:11:42 PM
I thought positive and negative counters couldn't co exist on a creature. So there would be no +1/+1 and then undying should trigger again. 
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 06:15:55 PM
... the rule# has already been posted
Title: Re: Infect and Undying
Post by: BlackJester on June 17, 2012, 06:57:48 PM
You don't need to evoke the Jester. There are many capable rules people lurking aroun here. Scarsabrex, for one, is solid.