Cascading ends in casting the card revealed without paying its mana cost. Thus, does playing a spell with cascade as the result of a cascade, cascade again?
Yes.
Yep, if you cascade into a card that also has cascade, you will cascade again using the new card's CMC. Even though you cast it for free, the card's converted mana cost is still what is printed on the card for the purpose of your cascade.
Such a wacky mechanic.
Then I think this deck can use an infinite reflects... :)
Cascade- the Ultimate Timmy keyword.
It gets really nutty when you play {Maelstrom Wanderer} in a Cascade deck.
I've only played him once yet. Lol I need more matches of planechase.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 17, 2012, 12:08:29 PM
It gets really nutty when you play {Maelstrom Wanderer} in a Cascade deck.
So you would cascade into something with cascade with Wanderer, cast it, then cascade using that cards cascade then say u get no cascade. Then u cascade with wanderer again?
So I I cascade, CMC of 3 and run Out of cards in my library, I lose, right?
nope, you aren't drawimg cards and all revealed cards are randomly put back in the bottom of your library.
Quote from: CbStrad on June 17, 2012, 01:42:19 PM
Nope. You cascade twice first from Wanderer. Then you cascade any cascades you hit. At least, I think so
This. The new cascades don't trigger until the Wanderer's two finish.
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 01:49:47 PM
nope, you aren't drawimg cards and all revealed cards are randomly put back in the bottom of your library.
So then the cascade fizzles and I shuffle all the exiled cards into my library?
Cascade + {hypergenesis} = win more
Quote from: Imdowd80 on June 17, 2012, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 01:49:47 PM
nope, you aren't drawimg cards and all revealed cards are randomly put back in the bottom of your library.
So then the cascade fizzles and I shuffle all the exiled cards into my library?
the cascade didn't fizzle it just didn't find anything to cast. your opponent gets to look at all the cards in your library before you shuffle them.
You don't shuffle your deck you place the cards in the bottom of your library in any order. In the case of cascading trough your who deck you can rearrange your whole deck in the order you want. Basically setting up every draw step.
cascade specificly says random
Ok sorry
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
Cascade + {hypergenesis} = win more
Depends. Ive played that vs Eldrazi ramp. 😱
Quote from: BlackJester on June 17, 2012, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
Cascade + {hypergenesis} = win more
Depends. Ive played that vs Eldrazi ramp. 😱
That's why I put "win more" not win all the time. That happens to me alot when I play a {hypergenesis} deck in my play group. Maybe I should change the sleeves of that deck so they won't play their eldrazi decks.
Somewhat on topic, I like {Ancestral Visions} with cascade.
I also used to run a whole bunch of high CMC landcycling creatures (a la {Jhessian Zombies}) and {Living End}. It was pretty good if you hit {Violent Outburst} along the way.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 17, 2012, 08:02:02 PM
Somewhat on topic, I like {Ancestral Visions} with cascade.
I also used to run a whole bunch of high CMC landcycling creatures (a la {Jhessian Zombies}) and {Living End}. It was pretty good if you hit {Violent Outburst} along the way.
i like this alot
So why is {shardless agent} so good
because it has legs. and there are a variety of 2-0 (specificly 0) cmc spells which wreck havok.
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 17, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
So why is {shardless agent} so good
Because of {hypergenesis} it let's us use less colors, because {violent outburst} was our only option to cascade into {hypergenesis}
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 17, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
So why is {shardless agent} so good
Because of {hypergenesis} it let's us use less colors, because {violent outburst} was our only option to cascade into {hypergenesis}
Ohhh okay cool!
It's also one more step in the chain. You could hit one after a {Bloodbraid Elf} and keep going.