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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: TBNL on June 15, 2012, 11:08:49 AM

Title: Suspending an Angel
Post by: TBNL on June 15, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
So if you suspend an {Illusory Angel}, and it is the first (or only) suspension that resolves that turn, what happens to the angel?
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: Fenster on June 15, 2012, 11:18:11 AM
I would assume you cant cast it if you havent cast anything before it.
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: scarsabrex on June 15, 2012, 11:19:24 AM
it remains exiled i believe
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 15, 2012, 11:19:24 AM
it remains exiled i believe
Yep.
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: TBNL on June 15, 2012, 11:23:17 AM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 15, 2012, 11:19:24 AM
it remains exiled i believe
So it would just be permanently exiled?
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: TBNL on June 15, 2012, 11:23:17 AM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 15, 2012, 11:19:24 AM
it remains exiled i believe
So it would just be permanently exiled?
You would try to cast it, but the rules would prevent you from casting it from exile.  So it stays.
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: Xanzurth on June 15, 2012, 04:37:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but things that are exiled once they return to the battlefield they are not "cast" just returned. So the cast trigger should not trigger, yes?
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: scarsabrex on June 15, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: Xanzurth on June 15, 2012, 04:37:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but things that are exiled once they return to the battlefield they are not "cast" just returned. So the cast trigger should not trigger, yes?

you're thinking of flickering and oblivion ring type cards, completely different mechanics here.
Title: Re: Suspending an Angel
Post by: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: Xanzurth on June 15, 2012, 04:37:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but things that are exiled once they return to the battlefield they are not "cast" just returned. So the cast trigger should not trigger, yes?
When a card with suspend has the last counter removed from it, the player then must cast it if possible.  This is different from an effect like {Cloudshift} that just brings it to and from exile.

Also, it is a static ability, not a trigger.  Effects that don't involve casting can still put the angel in play regardless of spells cast: {Quicksilver Amulet}, {Doomed Necromancer} etc.