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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Deathstorm on June 14, 2012, 05:10:44 PM

Title: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: Deathstorm on June 14, 2012, 05:10:44 PM
Could you use a stifle on the token created by Geist of saint Taft to prevent it from exiling
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: Sagemaster on June 14, 2012, 05:11:35 PM
Quote from: Deathstorm on June 14, 2012, 05:10:44 PM
Could you use a stifle on the token created by Geist of saint Taft to prevent it from exiling
Yea it's a triggered ability
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: Willthomjr on June 14, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
You would have to stifle the giest, not the token, since it's an ability of the Geist. I think this has been touched on before somewhere else...
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: scarsabrex on June 14, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
regardless you stifle whatever is on the stack.
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
You're not stifling the token or Taft, but the delayed trigger which points at the token. Technicalities, I know, but technicalities matter in magic.
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: Elitehalo360 on June 15, 2012, 06:13:36 AM
{stifle} targets?? {Geist of st traft} has hexproof? Can't work??
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: Rass on June 15, 2012, 06:46:19 AM
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on June 15, 2012, 06:13:36 AM
{stifle} targets?? {Geist of st traft} has hexproof? Can't work??

Hexproof is so only opponents cannot target the creature, you still can.
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: scarsabrex on June 15, 2012, 11:17:56 AM
which doesn't even matter because you're not even stifling the geist or the token, you're stifling the trigger.
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 11:20:25 AM
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on June 15, 2012, 06:13:36 AM
{stifle} targets?? {Geist of st traft} has hexproof? Can't work??
If you want, you could {Stifle} the trigger that your opponent's Giest creates to make the angel token.  Once an ability is on Le Stack, it exists separate from the object that made it.  The Geist may have hexproof, but an ability he puts on the stack doesn't.
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: Deathstorm on June 17, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Would a torpor orb do the same as stifle and stop the exile from happening
Title: Re: Geist of saint Taft
Post by: scarsabrex on June 17, 2012, 10:17:34 AM
no because the trigger is not a creature entering the battlefield