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Title: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: Gorzo on June 14, 2012, 04:35:02 PM
A relatively simple, possibly stupid question. Say you have {Moldgraf Monstrosity} and 2 other creatures on the battlefield.  Someone wipes the board with something like a {Day of Judgment}.

When you choose targets for Moldgraf's death trigger, the other two creatures you had on the battlefield are in the graveyard by now and are valid targets to reanimate with Moldgraf, yes?

Someone insisted that their deaths were still on the stack so they couldn't be targeted, but I say that can't be true, since all the Day'd creatures hit the grave at the same time, and hitting the graveyard is the condition for Moldgraf's trigger starting in the first place.
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: Deathstorm on June 14, 2012, 05:06:18 PM
I wild say you are right because day of judgement has to resolve before any abilities would trigger and all creatures hit the graveyard at the same tIme
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: Sagemaster on June 14, 2012, 05:08:20 PM
They go to the gy and can be randomly selected by moldgraf's ability
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: Gorzo on June 14, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
Thought so. Thank you.
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: scarsabrex on June 14, 2012, 05:35:52 PM
works
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: Druknal on June 14, 2012, 09:11:19 PM
Since ability stack in on this post I had two questions too. {Sheoldred, the Whispering One}'s reanimate trigger on upkeep. Would it still go off even if you are forced to sac her on the same upkeep the ability goes off? and at that, can her ability target herself since she would be dead?

Example {Call to the Grave} force sacing non zombies and Sheoldred is the only viable target. Since AP-NAP takes place, I see it as Sheoldred starting stack and Call to the Grave on top of it. Call to the Grave forcing the sac and then being able to rez a creature.

Sorry if it seems confusing.
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: scarsabrex on June 14, 2012, 09:46:37 PM
yes
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 10:09:04 PM
She can't reanimate herself since you need to declare the targets when you put the ability on the stack and she would be on the BF at that time.

If she dies before the ability resolves, it will still resolve though.
Title: Re: Moldgraf Monstrosity v Board wipes
Post by: Wally on June 15, 2012, 01:37:51 PM
Would also work if you had a second one in the graveyard, since that one would be a legal target. :)