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Title: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: T1barcode21 on June 12, 2012, 12:36:05 AM
Just wondering if it works if my opponent has a creature with hexproof and an enchantment on it, or an enchantment that makes it hexproof, can I cast a sorcery that exiles target artifact or enchantment. ( ie. Revoke Existence ) still?
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: Coffee Vampire on June 12, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
Can we exile it?

YES WE CAN! :D
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: Sagemaster on June 12, 2012, 01:48:03 AM
Bob the builder... Lalala 🎶🎶

XD
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: KulrathKnight on June 12, 2012, 11:19:12 AM
Yes. Unless the enchantment has a wording similar to {Diplomatic Immunity} you can still target the enchantment that gives the creature hexproof or shroud.

If they have {Fountain Watch} and {Enchanted Evening} then board-wipes are the only thing you can do.
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: T1barcode21 on June 14, 2012, 12:12:58 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 12:18:04 AM
This also confused me.

Hexproof is anything the opponent casts on the creature with it.

If a creature has shroud or says "can't be the target of spells or abilities" then no one can target it.
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 12:56:43 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 12:18:04 AM
This also confused me.

Hexproof is anything the opponent casts on the creature with it.

If a creature has shroud or says "can't be the target of spells or abilities" then no one can target it.
So what part of that is confusing you?
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 12:57:39 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 12:56:43 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 12:18:04 AM
This also confused me.

Hexproof is anything the opponent casts on the creature with it.

If a creature has shroud or says "can't be the target of spells or abilities" then no one can target it.
So what part of that is confusing you?


Oh, not anymore. I actually learned this yesterday. I was confused up until then.
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: Sagemaster on June 14, 2012, 01:01:07 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 12:18:04 AM
This also confused me.

Hexproof is anything the opponent casts on the creature with it.

If a creature has shroud or says "can't be the target of spells or abilities" then no one can target it.
True but if you use {Sun Titan} to bring back a {Dead Weight} you can use it to kill stuff like {Geist of Saint Traft}
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 01:07:19 AM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 14, 2012, 01:01:07 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 12:18:04 AM
This also confused me.

Hexproof is anything the opponent casts on the creature with it.

If a creature has shroud or says "can't be the target of spells or abilities" then no one can target it.
True but if you use {Sun Titan} to bring back a {Dead Weight} you can use it to kill stuff like {Geist of Saint Traft}

How?
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 01:08:39 AM
if an aura ETBs, you can attach it to any legal permanent.  This doesn't target.  {Retether} does this really well.
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: Kuberr on June 14, 2012, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 01:08:39 AM
if an aura ETBs, you can attach it to any legal permanent.  This doesn't target.

Very interesting.
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: KulrathKnight on June 14, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
Unless you cast the Aura that enters the battlefield, it doesn't target when it attaches. There were similar threads I think that discussed this weird phenomenon in Magic.

Edit: Dang. I didn't cast my post at Jester-speed.
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 01:13:04 AM
Quote from: KulrathKnight on June 14, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
Unless you cast the Aura that enters the battlefield, it doesn't target when it attaches. There were similar threads I think that discussed this weird phenomenon in Magic.

Edit: Dang. I didn't cast my post at Jester-speed.
Pre-6th Ed. Interrupt skillz.   8)
Title: Re: Exile target artifact/enchantment
Post by: KulrathKnight on June 14, 2012, 01:15:09 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 14, 2012, 01:13:04 AM
Quote from: KulrathKnight on June 14, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
Unless you cast the Aura that enters the battlefield, it doesn't target when it attaches. There were similar threads I think that discussed this weird phenomenon in Magic.

Edit: Dang. I didn't cast my post at Jester-speed.
Pre-6th Ed. Interrupt skillz.   8)

True story.