Just ran into a weird ruling that I'm pretty sure works but want to confirm it. Let's say I have {prismatic omen} on the field and then play {keeper of progenitus}, could I essentially tap an island, which could be seen as tapping either a forest, mountain or plains, and add {U}{G}{W}{R} to my mana pool since the omen makes them every land type?
I think you have to tap separately so no
It says "whenever", not "for each". Which is why I think it works.
I believe it works the way you want. Based on the wording of keeper. Tapping omened lands counts as tapping a mountain forest swamp island plains. You just choose what color it produces.
Now this might be really greedy but since the wording describes forest, plains, and mountains, and lands are all basic land types, couldnt omens effects work on the wording of keeper and make me tap one land for one of each color of mana. So basically tap a land: get BUWRG
No. Keeper only says an extra mana of the color that land produced. So an omened land tapped for blue gets an extra blue
Damn. Oh well. 4 mana for one land is good enough. Lmao
Quote from: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:27:41 PM
No. Keeper only says an extra mana of the color that land produced. So an omened land tapped for blue gets an extra blue
this you would get uuuu
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:27:41 PM
No. Keeper only says an extra mana of the color that land produced. So an omened land tapped for blue gets an extra blue
this you would get uuuu
Why do you say that? It says forest, plains, and mountains, I would add a color that that land would produce. Since my island is a forest, plains, and mountain, it will add the color of each of those when I tap it, plus the one blue from originally tapping it.
it doesn't say any that land WOULD produce it says what it DID produce. so you get 4 of the same color whenever you tap a land.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 10, 2012, 10:34:55 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:27:41 PM
No. Keeper only says an extra mana of the color that land produced. So an omened land tapped for blue gets an extra blue
this you would get uuuu
Why do you say that? It says forest, plains, and mountains, I would add a color that that land would produce. Since my island is a forest, plains, and mountain, it will add the color of each of those when I tap it, plus the one blue from originally tapping it.
No. It works like a dual land. You have to pick which type it produces. It doesn't produce them all.
Quote from: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 10, 2012, 10:34:55 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:27:41 PM
No. Keeper only says an extra mana of the color that land produced. So an omened land tapped for blue gets an extra blue
this you would get uuuu
Why do you say that? It says forest, plains, and mountains, I would add a color that that land would produce. Since my island is a forest, plains, and mountain, it will add the color of each of those when I tap it, plus the one blue from originally tapping it.
No. It works like a dual land. You have to pick which type it produces. It doesn't produce them all.
I understand that but since it doesn't say "whenever you tap a land" and it says specifically "forest plains and mountain", it counts as all of them automatically. Idk I think it works. I'm wondering what BJ will say to this.
Yes it's all three of those types. It still only produces ONE mana. Keeper doesn't care what color it is. Keeper just adds one more mana of the mana produced by said land.
"any type that land produced" if you tap it for any one color it produced that one color. so you will get 4 of the same color.
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
"any type that land produced" if you tap it for any one color it produced that one color. so you will get 4 of the same color.
I'm sorry.. 4? I'm probably just tired but where'd 4 come from?
you tap the land for a color. that land is a forest mountain and plains. the text doesn't say mountain and or forest and or plains so multityped lands get extra value. so you get essentially 3 uses out of the keepers ability.
Oh right. Good catch. God I shouldn't be trying to answer rules questions when tired
The trigger will only happen once. You'll get either:
{W}{W}
{U}{U}
{B}{B}
{R}{R}
Or
{G}{G}
Not four. If you tap a land, Keeper look to see if it was either a {Plains}, {Mountain}, or {Forest}. If the answer to any of these is yes, the trigger adds one more. If the answer is no, then it doesn't trigger. The same event (tapping a dualie) wont cause Keeper to trigger many times. It triggers once or not at all.
Sorry,
/hateratin'
^too slow
Damn! So it's not really a combo at all besides getting two for one. Crap! I thought I was on to something. Oh well. Still stunned the 💩 out of my friend when I had only five lands and played {last stand} to win the game. 😝 that woulda just been the icing on the cake to play that by using only a {leaden myr} and one land. 😝
Yup it says produced right in the wording. When u tap a land for a mana, even if it can produce all types, it's still only producing the color you choose. It didn't produce any of the others even though it could have.