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Title: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: TheRecklessPlaneswalker on June 10, 2012, 08:56:45 PM
{ labatory maniac} plus { platnium emperion} and { griselbrands} abilite
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: #noided on June 10, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
*facepalm*

Doesn't work. Read {Platinum Emperion} again.
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: TheRecklessPlaneswalker on June 10, 2012, 09:07:38 PM
:( face
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 10, 2012, 10:21:11 PM
The other one where you can't lose
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Kuberr on June 10, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
{Platinum Angel}. Not standard.
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Millionlittlee on June 10, 2012, 10:25:44 PM
Sooooo make it non standard
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: 15bm on June 10, 2012, 10:30:33 PM
But {Griselbrand} has lifelink, so you wouldn't lose the life anyways.
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:31:47 PM
Quote from: 15bm on June 10, 2012, 10:30:33 PM
But {Griselbrand} has lifelink, so you wouldn't lose the life anyways.
Yes but you can't pay life in the first place with emperion
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: 15bm on June 10, 2012, 10:32:49 PM
Right, but without it, you could still mill yourself right?
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
Quote from: 15bm on June 10, 2012, 10:32:49 PM
Right, but without it, you could still mill yourself right?

no cus you have to pay the cost. you don't try to pay costs you either do or you don't and then the spell or the ability does or does not go on the stack.
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Quackmaster5 on June 10, 2012, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
Quote from: 15bm on June 10, 2012, 10:32:49 PM
Right, but without it, you could still mill yourself right?

no cus you have to pay the cost. you don't try to pay costs you either do or you don't and then the spell or the ability does or does not go on the stack.

As BJ always tells us, CAN'T trumps CAN. So you can try to pay the 7 life, but since the emporion says you can't, it's overrules it.
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 10, 2012, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
Quote from: 15bm on June 10, 2012, 10:32:49 PM
Right, but without it, you could still mill yourself right?

no cus you have to pay the cost. you don't try to pay costs you either do or you don't and then the spell or the ability does or does not go on the stack.
THIS
As BJ always tells us, CAN'T trumps CAN. So you can try to pay the 7 life, but since the emporion says you can't, it's overrules it.
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:46:38 PM
so you're agreeing with me?
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:46:38 PM
so you're agreeing with me?
Yes. Why wouldn't I be. That's what Jester says
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: BlackJester on June 11, 2012, 12:58:39 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 10, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 10, 2012, 10:46:38 PM
so you're agreeing with me?
Yes. Why wouldn't I be. That's what Jester says
It's what the rules say. BlackJester is merely quoting the rules. 😜 I only WISH I had that kind of authority.

Also, you can't pay with something you don't have. Even if you had {Phyrexian Unlife} in play, if you have 6 life or less you cant pay 7 life. The game doesn't take IOUs.
Title: Re: Easy expensive self mill win all legal! I'm standard
Post by: Fenster on June 13, 2012, 08:57:52 AM
Stuff like {Sign in blood} would work though. Or that black minion who lets you put the top card into your hand then lose life equal to tge cmc.

With {Phyrexian unlife}