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Title: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 04:15:12 PM

A Vexation of Zombies

60 cards, 0 sideboard


21 {Swamp}

21 lands


4 {Cemetery Reaper}
4 {Ghoulraiser}
4 {Diregraf Ghoul}
1 {Grave Titan}
4 {Walking Corpse}
4 {Unbreathing Horde}
3 {Skinrender}

24 creatures


1 {Call to the Grave}
2 {Endless Ranks of the Dead}
4 {Ghoulcaller's Chant}
4 {Doom Blade}
3 {Dismember}
1 {Moan of the Unhallowed}

15 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
If I was running Standard Zombies, here's how I'd roll.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 05:04:16 PM
Bring on tha trolls!  ðŸ'€
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on November 25, 2011, 06:11:27 PM
I don't like {Walking Corpse}. It's just a vanilla 2/2. I'm not sure what to put instead though...

I also would recommend {Victim of Night} instead of {Doom Blade} unless your opponents like playing Grixis Control.

I also don't like {Ghoulraiser}, but we discussed that already.

Another edit - add {Vengeful Pharaoh}. Done wonders for me.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: cltrn81 on November 25, 2011, 06:18:02 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on November 25, 2011, 06:11:27 PM
I don't like {Walking Corpse}. It's just a vanilla 2/2. I'm not sure what to put instead though...

I also would recommend {Victim of Night} instead of {Doom Blade} unless your opponents like playing Grixis Control.

I also don't like {Ghoulraiser}, but we discussed that already.

Another edit - add {Vengeful Pharaoh}. Done wonders for me.

I think the point of this deck is an overwhelming swarm of 2/2s and the faster he gets creatures out the more zombs puts in play with {endless ranks of the dead}
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on November 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
I know this is a SuiBlack deck, but still...

Also {Dismember} is great for SuiBlack. Green is bad for aggro, so {Dismember} just kills the fat stuff.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on November 25, 2011, 06:11:27 PM
I don't like {Walking Corpse}. It's just a vanilla 2/2. I'm not sure what to put instead though...

I also would recommend {Victim of Night} instead of {Doom Blade} unless your opponents like playing Grixis Control.

I also don't like {Ghoulraiser}, but we discussed that already.

Another edit - add {Vengeful Pharaoh}. Done wonders for me.

We're still talking Standard, right?  I might sideboard {Victim of Night}, but what is big in standard that Victim could kill that the blade can't? Black non-zombies/non-vampires.  I don't think there are that many running around.

Would you do me a favor and try this build a couple of times an let me know how is goes?  I really think you need to play it to see how all the pieces work together.

@cltrn81  Thanks!
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Spikepit on November 25, 2011, 07:26:55 PM
Love the naming of the deck! If only more users name theirs creatively, like you and I plus a few others do, so we can tell the White Weenies, Decks and Zombies apart. 😝
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 07:53:55 PM
Cheers!  It took a lot of looking to try and find a collective name for zombies. Still don't know if there is an "official" one. A unique deck deserves a unique name. That's why many Standard decks have no names.  This deck is not original by any means. It's just my take.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on November 25, 2011, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on November 25, 2011, 06:11:27 PM
I don't like {Walking Corpse}. It's just a vanilla 2/2. I'm not sure what to put instead though...
I also would recommend {Victim of Night} instead of {Doom Blade} unless your opponents like playing Grixis Control.

I also don't like {Ghoulraiser}, but we discussed that already.

Another edit - add {Vengeful Pharaoh}. Done wonders for me.

We're still talking Standard, right?  I might sideboard {Victim of Night}, but what is big in standard that Victim could kill that the blade can't? Black non-zombies/non-vampires.  I don't think there are that many running around.

Would you do me a favor and try this build a couple of times an let me know how is goes?  I really think you need to play it to see how all the pieces work together.

@cltrn81  Thanks!
There's this program called Cockatrice that is a free playtesting program. I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 10:21:51 PM


I'm not trying to be a jerk about this; I would actually like someone to tell me how this plays. I just feel that it's important to see the deck as more than the some of its cards. A card in a vacuum might not be that strong, but in the right deck it could be a major player.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on November 25, 2011, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 10:21:51 PM


I'm not trying to be a jerk about this; I would actually like someone to tell me how this plays. I just feel that it's important to see the deck as more than the some of its cards. A card in a vacuum might not be that strong, but in the right deck it could be a major player.

I'll see what I can do. Which deck do you want me to play against? Do you want me to goldfish this?
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 11:54:47 PM
I've tried goldfishing this one, but you can't really get the recursive feel until you get into battle. You should try it against Standard archetypes right now, like WW, RDW, Wolf Run, Tempered Steel, etc.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on November 26, 2011, 12:31:59 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on November 25, 2011, 11:54:47 PM
I've tried goldfishing this one, but you can't really get the recursive feel until you get into battle. You should try it against Standard archetypes right now, like WW, RDW, Wolf Run, Tempered Steel, etc.
If I have some free time then I'll probably playtest it.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 26, 2011, 12:49:29 AM
For what it's worth, it's very similar to the DotP zombie deck.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Spikepit on November 26, 2011, 01:04:55 AM
What is Goldfishing?
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Prophylaxis on November 26, 2011, 01:18:07 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on November 26, 2011, 01:04:55 AM
What is Goldfishing?
It's where you play your deck against a person who has 20 life. That's it. Your job is to see how long can they stay alive.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 26, 2011, 01:26:01 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on November 26, 2011, 01:18:07 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on November 26, 2011, 01:04:55 AM
What is Goldfishing?
It's where you play your deck against a person who has 20 life. That's it. Your job is to see how long can they stay alive.

Magic Solitare.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: Spikepit on November 26, 2011, 02:03:07 AM
Oh! I never realized it had a name, I goldfish allll the time! Lol
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: BlackJester on November 26, 2011, 03:40:26 AM
It's a good way to see how a deck plays out, but it doesn't capture everything.
Title: Re: A Vexation of Zombies
Post by: cltrn81 on November 26, 2011, 09:27:20 AM
My magic solitaire is playing 2 decks against each other.  Hard not to play un-biased when you see both hands tho.