I could really use some help with this deck, I seem to keep losing to my friend's hold the line deck modified with some angelic overseers and honor of the pure, quite frankly it's very annoying lol so I have been reworking the idea and right now this is where I'm at.
White Crusade
60 cards, 15 sideboard
22 Plains
22 lands
3 {Gideon's Lawkeeper}
3 {Elite Vanguard}
4 {Fiend Hunter}
2 {Hero of bladehold}
4 {Mirran Crusader}
3 {Doomed Traveler}
1 {Sun Titan}
3 {Accorder Paladin}
4 {Adaptive Automaton}
27 creatures
4 {Honor of the Pure}
4 {Oblivion Ring}
2 {Sword of War and Peace}
1 {Gideon Jura}
11 other spells
Sideboard
4 {Timely Reinforcements}
3 {Midnight Haunting}
4 {Day of Judgment}
2 {Intangible Virtue}
2 {Grand Abolisher}
15 sideboard cards
What does this deck need help on?
I would add {Champion of the Parish}, but this deck looks great already.
Your sideboard can use some changeup. {Intagable virtue} isn't going to do anything unless you keep triggering timely reinforcements (not a good sign) and I would splash another color, maybe blue
I would also add some blue. Probably a mindshreiker because it is a good mana-sink and is flying. I would also cut the vanguards in place for a few angelic overseers because of the lack of flying protection.
{Mindshreiker}
{Angelic Overseers}
I would disagree. {mindshrieker} is a terrible card to have in this deck, because it eats up mana like crazy. Milling is an irrelevant ability in this deck. Running aggressive, mindshrieker does nothing except eat up the mana that could be spent on casting new creatures
Quote from: Appleguru56 on November 25, 2011, 02:59:10 PM
I would disagree. {mindshrieker} is a terrible card to have in this deck, because it eats up mana like crazy. Milling is an irrelevant ability in this deck. Running aggressive, mindshrieker does nothing except eat up the mana that could be spent on casting new creatures
Agreed. Mindshrieker is quite random, and stuff that depend on what your opponents are playing should be left in the sideboard or out.
Mindshrieker is also quite the high-variance card.
I was attempting to splash blue, but so far I just haven't been able to work it into the deck properly. I've tried {Geist of saint traft} and {ponder}s and even some {mana leak}s, but I only have {glacial fortress} and no {seachrome coast} so with all of the WW spells sometimes I run into mana issues.
I would not splash blue. Just run white weenie and see how it goes.
Played it today and it worked out great! Even in single player the token generators really helped and in multiplayer especially
If u want to splash blue I recommend the {Geist of staint traft} along with some {ponders} and {vapor snags} and possible a few {feeling of dread}
Some of the counter spells clear the battle field for some direct shots at the player
I ended up adding in and side boarding {feeling of dread} I just can't figure out what to take out for all those blue spells really
Quote from: Prophylaxis on November 26, 2011, 05:03:22 PM
I would not splash blue. Just run white weenie and see how it goes.
I'd agree w/ Pro here, a good WW deck doesn't need blue. Maybe some more equipment though...
You thinking those {silver in-laid dagger}? I didn't throw in {butcher's cleaver}s because I was worried their equip cost was too high, although by the time they are out I have the mana to equip next turn...did you have any better ideas?
Quote from: Validan on November 28, 2011, 01:26:42 AM
You thinking those {silver in-laid dagger}? I didn't throw in {butcher's cleaver}s because I was worried their equip cost was too high, although by the time they are out I have the mana to equip next turn...did you have any better ideas?
I wouldn't really put in equipment; if you put in equipment then this deck morphs into a {Puresteel Paladin} deck.
I did want to stay away from puresteel
I didn't mean to start a whole equipment thread argument lol
Thought you guys may want to see the new deck list. The side board isn't complete yet but I'm also not sure how I feel about the timely reinforcements yet since I haven't had a chance to cast them, I built up too fast with midnight haunting to fulfill the requirement
White Crusade
60 cards, 11 sideboard
22 Plains
22 lands
2 {Gideon's Lawkeeper}
3 {Leonin Relic-Warder}
1 {Geist-Honored Monk}
2 {Fiend Hunter}
2 {Hero of Bladehold}
4 {Mirran Crusader}
1 {Sun Titan}
4 {Adaptive Automaton}
19 creatures
1 {Divine Reckoning}
1 {Feeling of Dread}
3 {Timely Reinforcements}
4 {Midnight Haunting}
4 {Honor of the Pure}
4 {Oblivion Ring}
2 {Sword of War and Peace}
19 other spells
Sideboard
2 {Elite Inquisitor}
2 {Fiend Hunter}
4 {Day of Judgment}
2 {Grand Abolisher}
1 {Gideon Jura}
1 {Feeling of Dread}
12 sideboard cards
Quote from: Validan on November 29, 2011, 09:17:32 AM
I didn't mean to start a whole equipment thread argument lol
Don't worry about it, it's a good discussion! It's been given it's own life here:
http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php/topic,737.0.html
Cool, even with equipment though I'm not sure what I would swap lol that seems to be my problem
I like {Doomed Traveler}. Gets in with evasion.
I will mainboard the four honor of the pure and remove three relic warders into the side. I would also cut some adaptive automations in favor of removals such as oblivion ring.
Yeah, I could see the place for them but I didn't really like the {Adaptive Automaton}.
With what I have in the deck now I am able to have all of those cards in mainboard
Think that card {shrine of loyal legions} is any good for this deck? I mainboarded the {elite inquisitors} and {grand abolisher}s instead of {leonin relic warder}s and the {divine reckoning}
Quote from: Validan on November 30, 2011, 12:48:26 AM
Think that card {shrine of loyal legions} is any good for this deck? I mainboarded the {elite inquisitors} and {grand abolisher}s instead of {leonin relic warder}s and the {divine reckoning}
Shrine is a sideboard card because it is slow to achieve value. Elite inquisitor is cheap ($) and has decent abilities, but it becomes underpowered as the game progresses. Day of judgement is the one and only mass removal worth considering for this deck. While divine reckoning may sound good, it really just allows your opponent to keep their biggest threat (say {grave titan}?) while you keep your favorite weenie to combat that.
So you think I should mainboard {day of judgment} instead of the inquisitors?
This has the makings of a tough token deck. Don't mean to change the subject, but maybe some more {hero of bladehold} or some {blade splicer}
I like the bladeholds definitely, and the splicers I've been eyeing I'm just trying to keep it mostly human/spirit for the {adaptive automaton}s, after selling my saint trafts I think I'll get some more bladeholds