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Title: Net decking
Post by: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 03:46:35 PM
What exactly is it? I've heard the term a lot but never quite understood the concept..
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on June 03, 2012, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 03:46:35 PM
What exactly is it? I've heard the term a lot but never quite understood the concept..
It's when a good deck becomes popular, gets poste on the Internet, then everybody builds one.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Poof on June 03, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
Pretty much building a deck off the Internet usually one of the top decks from any recent event.  Pretty much anybody that runs frites Mage blade whatever the pros are running they run
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Poof on June 03, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
Pretty much building a deck off the Internet usually one of the top decks from any recent event.  Pretty much anybody that runs frites Mage blade whatever the pros are running they run
Ohh okay so what if you take a pro idea and put your own twist and your own ideas into it? Is that still net decking?
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on June 03, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Poof on June 03, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
Pretty much building a deck off the Internet usually one of the top decks from any recent event.  Pretty much anybody that runs frites Mage blade whatever the pros are running they run
Ohh okay so what if you take a pro idea and put your own twist and your own ideas into it? Is that still net decking?
How big of a twist? Like same concept different cards, or same cards just changed a little.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 04:47:10 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on June 03, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Poof on June 03, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
Pretty much building a deck off the Internet usually one of the top decks from any recent event.  Pretty much anybody that runs frites Mage blade whatever the pros are running they run
Ohh okay so what if you take a pro idea and put your own twist and your own ideas into it? Is that still net decking?
How big of a twist? Like same concept different cards, or same cards just changed a little.
Somewhat big, like half same half different but same basic concept
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: loop-s-pool on June 03, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 04:47:10 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on June 03, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Poof on June 03, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
Pretty much building a deck off the Internet usually one of the top decks from any recent event.  Pretty much anybody that runs frites Mage blade whatever the pros are running they run
Ohh okay so what if you take a pro idea and put your own twist and your own ideas into it? Is that still net decking?
How big of a twist? Like same concept different cards, or same cards just changed a little.
Somewhat big, like half same half different but same basic concept
I wouldn't call changing half the deck netdecking. But if you are running 2 extra swords in Delver, it's still net decking.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Sagemaster on June 03, 2012, 08:19:18 PM
Ohh okay thanks!
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
The bottom line.

Net decking= ripping off someone else deck.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: loop-s-pool on June 03, 2012, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
The bottom line.

Net decking= ripping off someone else deck.
Nope. If you consider scientists researching other scientist's info and expanding knowledge from there "ripping off" I suppose so. Not everyone is like you and going to start from scratch on every little endevor.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on June 03, 2012, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
The bottom line.

Net decking= ripping off someone else deck.
Nope. If you consider scientists researching other scientist's info and expanding knowledge from there "ripping off" I suppose so. Not everyone is like you and going to start from scratch on every little endevor.

Well that's my opinion. So that's what I believe. I do start from scratch. Not everyone does. I'm just simply stating my opinion. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but these forums are all about opinion. So I guess we're going to have to deal with it. You and I.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 03, 2012, 09:29:21 PM
It all becomes net decking anyway. Especially late in a format, whether you start from scratch, someone somewhere has won with something similar so if your accused of it, just win. Being a good player trumps it all in the long run, play a net deck better then the next guy or all of the guys and win. And when they say

Them: "netdecking bro" then you can say

you: "cool story bro, I still won"

them: "but your deck is the same as every one else's"

You:"true story bro, but you let me know when everyone stops running delver in everything, until then qqqqqqqqqqq"

I'm the only competitive infect player at my fnm, so I win, and I don't get complaints because I've always ran infect, an ill run infect till it cycles, and I'm constantly changing my deck, like 8 cards per week and that's lowball
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 09:33:34 PM
Lol infect.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: loop-s-pool on June 03, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 09:33:34 PM
Lol infect.
Mang, I used to think you were a pretty decent guy, and I still kind of do, no need to insult people.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on June 03, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 09:33:34 PM
Lol infect.
Mang, I used to think you were a pretty decent guy, and I still kind of do, no need to insult people.

I'm not insulting anyone.

I love infect.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Dudecore on June 03, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
Netdecking just goes along with the type of player you are. Spikes netdeck, nothing wrong with it. There is a bit of sour grapes on the side of non-netdeckers too.

Basically, everyone is playing an entertaining card game. You lose games, you win games. If you lose to a netdeck, or win because you didn't netdeck, it's still a game.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 03, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
Netdecking just goes along with the type of player you are. Spikes netdeck, nothing wrong with it. There is a bit of sour grapes on the side of non-netdeckers too.

Basically, everyone is playing an entertaining card game. You lose games, you win games. If you lose to a netdeck, or win because you didn't netdeck, it's still a game.

Tell that to number two at worlds.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Dudecore on June 03, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Competitive MtG is different. It consists of Spikes, because spikes like winning.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 03, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Competitive MtG is different. It consists of Spikes, because spikes like winning.

What are these spikes you speak of?
Bist du gut?
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Dudecore on June 03, 2012, 10:38:33 PM
Player Types
Over the history of Magic's development, the research and development at Wizards of the Coast noticed that Magic: The Gathering players could be characterized by four general stereotypes. Cards then and since have usually been designed with one of these three players in mind. References to them in casual Magic play are usually in jest, but most players do nonetheless tend to subscribe to one of the styles, or a conglomeration of the three. See also: Vorthos and Melvin.

Timmy players
The first player type to be given a name, Timmy is most associated with playing for fun, and all kinds of huge creatures, fantastic spells, and mythical enchantments. He is the most social archetype, enjoying the interaction that Magic provides. A stereotypical Timmy is usually a younger player with a simple (yet fun for him) deck. Timmy does not care whether he wins or loses, he simply wants to have fun playing really big effects. Timmies see Johnnies as too focused on certain combos and Spikes too bent on winning.

Johnny players
Johnny, the second named archetype, plays for the mental challenge that Magic presents. He likes to find interesting combinations of cards that can win the game or give him an advantage. Johnny may be a player who seeks niche cards, or cards widely reputed as bad, and tries to "break" them, exploiting them in ways to give abnormal power and win the game. He is also a combo player, sometimes choosing for elaborate but ineffective win conditions. Johnny is happiest when his decks work and he wins his way; for him, one in many leaves him happy, if that win is on his own terms. Johnnies see Timmies as simplistic and Spikes as uptight and unoriginal.

Spike players
Previously called the tournament player, Wizards R&D chose "Spike" as a name that sounded aggressive and competitive. Spike plays to win. He will find the best deck in the format, even if it requires copying another innovator's work (see netdecking). Spike's cards are effective, designed to secure a fast and effective victory over opponents. If Spike plays several games and loses only one, but feels he should have won it, he may be malcontent. Spikes see Timmies as rookies and Johnnies as eccentric and annoying.

(source:http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Magic_slang)
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Coffee Vampire on June 03, 2012, 10:41:36 PM
Magic is like driving...

For competitive uses, people all drive the same car...a race car.
Some people like to collect unique or expensive cars and show them off.
And some people just go by with what fits their personality.

I don't think it's any reason to get mad at net-deckers. It's just what people do in standard (competitive racing).

Another way to think of it is like this:

I play Super Smash Bros Melee on the gamecube with my bro. He uses the C-stick to do smash attacks instead of doing them the hard way. Yet because he does this, it's easy to predict his moves. Just block and chain-shot him (yes I play Link) when he jams that C-stick!

Same with net-deckers. You got a problem with them? Well the one thing you are mad at is the one thing that will help you: you know EXACTLY what they are going to do. Plan accordingly.

Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: #noided on June 03, 2012, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.

"Johnnies" is Conley Woods in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 01:33:26 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.
The player archetypes are what R&D use to design and create the cards you love to play.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 01:33:26 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Dudecore:

I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

I find none of that true.

I actually find it extremely funny, but very innacurate.
The player archetypes are what R&D use to design and create the cards you love to play.

And there you go. Theyre for developers. For players outside of that to use it. It's quite funny.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 12:09:36 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 11:16:34 AM
And there you go. Theyre for developers. For players outside of that to use it. It's quite funny.

Why is that funny?  I'm not seeing any comedy here.  ???

It's a way for players to self-identify what it is that they enjoy about the game of Magic.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Greg54js on June 04, 2012, 12:20:05 PM
Well I guess I'm somewhere in between Johnny and timmy 
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 04, 2012, 12:20:05 PM
Well I guess I'm somewhere in between Johnny and timmy 
Exactly!  You can have traits of more than one.  Some cards will speak to your Johnny side.  Some will speak to your Timmy side.

I've found that most Spikes don't understand the archetypes because, as they say "Isn't EVERYONE playing to win?"
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Sagemaster on June 04, 2012, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 04, 2012, 12:20:05 PM
Well I guess I'm somewhere in between Johnny and timmy 
Exactly!  You can have traits of more than one.  Some cards will speak to your Johnny side.  Some will speak to your Timmy side.

I've found that most Spikes don't understand the archetypes because, as they say "Isn't EVERYONE playing to win?"
I don't think I'm a spike but I don't understand archetypes :/ I've been looking for videos to understand them but no dice :/
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
Useless.

Why must there be names for people? Lol if you enjoy to play the. You enjoy to play. Whether it be casual or competitive, why not just say you're that. Instead of the ridiculous names like "spike" and "bob" or whatever. Lmao.

Waste of time in my opinion.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Sagemaster on June 04, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
Useless.

Why must there be names for people? Lol if you enjoy to play the. You enjoy to play. Whether it be casual or competitive, why not just say you're that. Instead of the ridiculous names like "spike" and "bob" or whatever. Lmao.

Waste of time in my opinion.

It's a slang or jargon...also the same reason I wouldn't understand what a code xxx would be if it were a medical code or a military code. The whole purpose is just give them a name to keep track if what types of people are dominating the consumer base..
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 04, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
Some days I'm a timmy other days I'm a spike. And I have a Johnny who helps me work my decks.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Then I guess I'm a billy on weekdays, Joshua on weeknights, and zaine on the weekends.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 12:55:06 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Then I guess I'm a billy on weekdays, Joshua on weeknights, and zaine on the weekends.
Okay.  What does it mean to be a Billy, Joshua, or Zaine?
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: scarsabrex on June 04, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Then I guess I'm a billy on weekdays, Joshua on weeknights, and zaine on the weekends.

wether or not you think it's intelligent or not it's a widely accepted aspect of mtg. like netdecking.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 02:54:25 PM
I'll remember not to play in your town.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 02:54:25 PM
I'll remember not to play in your town.
Do you play or watch sports?
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:02:46 PM
No.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:06:41 PM
Lol I see people can't take my opinion without getting mad.

You guys rock.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Willthomjr on June 04, 2012, 03:11:20 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:06:41 PM
Lol I see people can't take my opinion without getting mad.

You guys rock.

Because you come off like a condescending douche that's why.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:06:41 PM
Lol I see people can't take my opinion without getting mad.

You guys rock.
A) it depends on the opinion
B) who's getting mad?

I asked about sports to try and find an analogy you might appreciate. So much for trying to find common ground...   :-\
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:06:41 PM
Lol I see people can't take my opinion without getting mad.

You guys rock.
B) who's getting mad?

The one giving me negative karma.

I guess it's the children. Lmao. Love it.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
You are coming off a little condescending here.

Maybe somebody just got around to reading an older comment of yours.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
You are coming off a little condescending here.

Maybe somebody just got around to reading an older comment of yours.

But it's a web based forum. How can anyone sense my emotions or feeling with my words when that's all you see. Words.

Not making much sense here, guy. Please help me understand. Is my English not correct?
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Elitehalo360 on June 04, 2012, 03:35:24 PM
I didn't net deck when I started I played for fun and then I got more competitive and wanted to win so I had to spend more and more money and I don't wanna invest 100+ $ in a deck that isn't going to turn a profit for me in some way so i wanna see what cards and decks are worth investing in then expanding off of those decks to fit my stupid meta lol more recently I've been focus on my own ideas but since aggro is now toppin and the only topping control deck is solarflare of course I'm gonna copy his deck to some extent but I don't see net decking as a bad thing at all, I dont wanna invest in something that isnt gonna win, and I don't play just to win I have fun talking with other player and I dont get butt hurt if I lose, unless their a dick, I mean I get disappointed but I expand off that and I love the ppl at my shop and I always have fun when I play wether or not if I win winning is just a plus :)
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on June 04, 2012, 03:35:24 PM
I didn't net deck when I started I played for fun and then I got more competitive and wanted to win so I had to spend more and more money and I don't wanna invest 100+ $ in a deck that isn't going to turn a profit for me in some way so i wanna see what cards and decks are worth investing in then expanding off of those decks to fit my stupid meta lol more recently I've been focus on my own ideas but since aggro is now toppin and the only topping control deck is solarflare of course I'm gonna copy his deck to some extent but I don't see net decking as a bad thing at all, I dont wanna invest in something that isnt gonna win, and I don't play just to win I have fun talking with other player and I dont get butt hurt if I lose, unless their a dick, I mean I get disappointed but I expand off that and I love the ppl at my shop and I always have fun when I play wether or not if I win winning is just a plus :)

I agree to some extent.

I don't mind losing at all. It's cool and all, but of I were to use someone else's deck and lose... Then it has to mean I am just a horrible player. If I use my own deck with my own creativity and win, doesn't that make me a better player?

"me" and "I" being a general "everyone". I hope people realize this.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on June 04, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
You are coming off a little condescending here.

Maybe somebody just got around to reading an older comment of yours.

But it's a web based forum. How can anyone sense my emotions or feeling with my words when that's all you see. Words.

Not making much sense here, guy. Please help me understand. Is my English not correct?
You just have strong opinions, and because of people's personal experiences your words may have a positive or negative conotation that you didn't intend.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on June 04, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
You are coming off a little condescending here.

Maybe somebody just got around to reading an older comment of yours.

But it's a web based forum. How can anyone sense my emotions or feeling with my words when that's all you see. Words.

Not making much sense here, guy. Please help me understand. Is my English not correct?
You just have strong opinions, and because of people's personal experiences your words may have a positive or negative conotation that you didn't intend.

Thank you, Jace.
I couldn't think of the words to say it.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:28:34 PM

But it's a web based forum. How can anyone sense my emotions or feeling with my words when that's all you see. Words.

Not making much sense here, guy. Please help me understand. Is my English not correct?
Sure, guy, maybe I can help.  Since your English may not be strong, I'll try to use simple words.  All we have to do is read the words you post with regards to player types:
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
Useless.

Why must there be names for people? Lol if you enjoy to play the. You enjoy to play. Whether it be casual or competitive, why not just say you're that. Instead of the ridiculous names like "spike" and "bob" or whatever. Lmao.

Waste of time in my opinion.

Just because you don't understand something, doesn't make it useless.  Spike, Timmy, Johnny, Melvin, Vorthos (yes Vorthos is a player type, one who likes the flavor of magic cards, the art, the names, the feelings you get from cards.) are all nicknames we use to talk about aspects of the game that players enjoy.

For players familiar with the idea, I can just say "I'm a Johnny but turning Timmy because of my group."

This is way easier than saying "I enjoy building decks around combos, the interactions of cards, or various themes because I like showing off my skills as a deck builder.  However, I find myself becoming more interested in big splashy effects, large monsters, and grand crazy stuff, because I am starting to enjoy getting together with my friends and sharing great experiences because of my group."

Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Then I guess I'm a billy on weekdays, Joshua on weeknights, and zaine on the weekends.

Condescension - showing or implying a usually patronizing descent from dignity or superiority.

Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: scarsabrex on June 04, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on June 04, 2012, 03:35:24 PM
I didn't net deck when I started I played for fun and then I got more competitive and wanted to win so I had to spend more and more money and I don't wanna invest 100+ $ in a deck that isn't going to turn a profit for me in some way so i wanna see what cards and decks are worth investing in then expanding off of those decks to fit my stupid meta lol more recently I've been focus on my own ideas but since aggro is now toppin and the only topping control deck is solarflare of course I'm gonna copy his deck to some extent but I don't see net decking as a bad thing at all, I dont wanna invest in something that isnt gonna win, and I don't play just to win I have fun talking with other player and I dont get butt hurt if I lose, unless their a dick, I mean I get disappointed but I expand off that and I love the ppl at my shop and I always have fun when I play wether or not if I win winning is just a plus :)

I agree to some extent.

I don't mind losing at all. It's cool and all, but of I were to use someone else's deck and lose... Then it has to mean I am just a horrible player. If I use my own deck with my own creativity and win, doesn't that make me a better player?

"me" and "I" being a general "everyone". I hope people realize this.

this would be disregarding factors like familarity with a deck and deck vs deck interactions.

what you're asserting is too black and white. if i make an anti-ramp deck and beat every ramp player that does not necessarily make me the better player. people who play with net decks and lose against counter tech are not horrible players by default. going by your explanations jon finkel is a "worse" player than alexander haynes and brian kibler.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
It seems you got mad at the joke I made. I apologize.

But Going back to the point I made before. You could neve have known because there is nO inflection in the words I type. So on both of our parts. Don't you think things like this would run smoother if it's a private matter? Like a pm letting me or whomever know what their issue is.

Instead calling people out publicly is very offensive in my opinion. How are we supposed to all get along when people gang up on everyone?

Please think about it, BJ. Instead of feeding the fire. Doesn't make It better.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: cltrn81 on June 04, 2012, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
It seems you got mad at the joke I made. I apologize.

But Going back to the point I made before. You could neve have known because there is nO inflection in the words I type. So on both of our parts. Don't you think things like this would run smoother if it's a private matter? Like a pm letting me or whomever know what their issue is.

Instead calling people out publicly is very offensive in my opinion. How are we supposed to all get along when people gang up on everyone?

Please think about it, BJ. Instead of feeding the fire. Doesn't make It better.
The very definition of a forum is open discussion for all to see.  Understand the concept that your line of communication is open to interpretation.....guy.  And put yourself in ppl's shoes and try to think how this is going to be interpreted.....ohh and don't follow the end of a sentence with, guy.......guy ;)
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: scarsabrex on June 04, 2012, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
It seems you got mad at the joke I made.

if nobody else laughed it wasn't a very good joke.

Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:52:08 PM

Instead calling people out publicly is very offensive in my opinion. How are we supposed to all get along when people gang up on everybody.

how mature if not ironic because...

Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:06:41 PM
Lol I see people can't take my opinion without getting mad.

You guys rock.

hmmm interesting. yes very mature.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 04:01:05 PM
Point proven. Lol
Can't even talk to people now without degrading talk.

Okay kids. I'll stop right here.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: scarsabrex on June 04, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
thank you buddy.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
It seems you got mad at the joke I made. I apologize.

But Going back to the point I made before. You could neve have known because there is nO inflection in the words I type. So on both of our parts. Don't you think things like this would run smoother if it's a private matter? Like a pm letting me or whomever know what their issue is.

Instead calling people out publicly is very offensive in my opinion. How are we supposed to all get along when people gang up on everyone?

Please think about it, BJ. Instead of feeding the fire. Doesn't make It better.
There is a convention in text/typing/forums that exists called "emoticons" that you may be familiar with.  You are correct, we can't tell inflection, all we have to go on is your choice of words and attitude you project based on those words.  You could use  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( and many others to show emotion and let readers know you are joking and to lighten the mood.

I do think about it.  I felt you were being condescending.  If you want to be condescending, that's your choice.  I was just making the observation.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Willthomjr on June 04, 2012, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 04:01:05 PM
Point proven. Lol
Can't even talk to people now without degrading talk.

Okay kids. I'll stop right here.

Unless you're really old, calling people kids is still condescending. I think you're not getting people's point. While a chunk of the community are probably "kids" a lot probably including the moderators are not. :/
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
Define really old. Lol

:X
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Rass on June 04, 2012, 04:08:02 PM
I think jester is an online bully troller



Jkjk <-----------this is how you can tell I am joking
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Willthomjr on June 04, 2012, 04:08:13 PM
Lol sorry. I'm a young buck myself at 25 so I'd say 42 (dads age old fart) :)
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Willthomjr on June 04, 2012, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 04, 2012, 04:08:02 PM
I think jester is an online bully troller



Jkjk <-----------this is how you can tell I am joking

Banstick imminent for BJ
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: cltrn81 on June 04, 2012, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
Define really old. Lol

:X

I am guessing you are 21-22.......I would define really old as older than that.  He is right about the kids thing.....very condescending.  This forum has been going for a while with no issues until we had this Eneishi guy.......you don't know him do you?

;) ⬅(that is the ole "I know" winky face)
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 04:13:54 PM
How far have we come from Net Decking.  roflcopter

And I try to stand up to the bullies around here, because I'm trying to look out for my peeps.

If you feel I'm out of line, please tell me, publicly or privately, I don't care.  Just put it somewhere I'll see it.  Don't hide it in Trades or something.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 04, 2012, 04:08:13 PM
Lol sorry. I'm a young buck myself at 25 so I'd say 42 (dads age old fart) :)

Pretty close. Haha
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Rass on June 04, 2012, 04:16:04 PM
My post was a joke I was also highlighting how you can tell I was kidding.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Poof on June 04, 2012, 04:33:00 PM
Don't mean to interrupt but my topic was closed because of this guy with pretty much the same content this guy defending how he's being mature and trying to have a conversation and me obviously disagreeing.  I thought he was trolling.  But maybe this should be closed as well it's only fair.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 04:35:39 PM
Poof makes a good point, let's talk about Net Decking.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: cltrn81 on June 04, 2012, 04:44:22 PM
I look at net decking like gathering information.  I like watching YouTube vids of pro tout matches.....so yea I am cutious about their deck list.  If I get inspired for a build then why not look online to see some similar decks.  You never know what card is out there that you never knew existed.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 04:49:14 PM
I don't like the idea of new players thinking that they can just CTRL-V a deck that top players play and expect to win.  But, I do think they find out pretty quick there's more to it.  Magic isn't that easy.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: cltrn81 on June 04, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 04, 2012, 04:49:14 PM
I don't like the idea of new players thinking that they can just CTRL-V a deck that top players play and expect to win.  But, I do think they find out pretty quick there's more to it.  Magic isn't that easy.
It really is how you play the cards.  I believe this game is equal parts luck, strategy, and the quality of your deck.  I am not a fan of a direct copy and paste either.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 05:04:40 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 04, 2012, 04:44:22 PM
I look at net decking like gathering information.  I like watching YouTube vids of pro tout matches.....so yea I am cutious about their deck list.  If I get inspired for a build then why not look online to see some similar decks.  You never know what card is out there that you never knew existed.

I watched my first pro tour quarter finals. It's like a different level. Haha
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 04, 2012, 05:30:04 PM
This is my opinion, again and I limit my comments as to keep it friendly.

Do what you do best.

when you build a deck yourself, you know the intrincate details of it, you know it in and out, and you can adapt it as you see fit to play in your local and regional formats.

Tbh If you developed your own home brew of a net deck you'll have similar results to my first comment. But it's still like this if you have a net deck, there are awnsers for you, there are current standard decks And if your used to playing against them you'll be more apt to deal with them

Another thing about netdecks is mirror matches, whose to say you'll be any better than the next guy, and if it's the same deck you may just find that your not apt to deal with your own problems.

If your just a habitual net-decker, well welcome to 85% of competitive standard. It's to be expected. And you only see the net decks as competitive because that's what you expect. That's why when your at a regionals and you lose to like "scrub u/r burn" or "5 color beasts" you dismiss it as "random Jank" while those people have been working their decks since the beginning of a format

In closing, once again expect net-decks. But you know what the great thing about net-decks is? You can build one to, not to play with, but to play AGAINST! Have your friend play it against you, or vice versa, figure out how to make your brew work against it.

Peace
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Silent_one on June 04, 2012, 06:05:53 PM
It might have been said already but people out there see these net decks and build decks to beat them and some of people are like card prodigys. To me it seems more fun to show up with a deck no one has seen before and win rather than with a deck everybody has cause they are not prepared for it. Just my thoughts
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Hays413 on June 04, 2012, 06:11:46 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 04, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 04, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
Useless.

Why must there be names for people? Lol if you enjoy to play the. You enjoy to play. Whether it be casual or competitive, why not just say you're that. Instead of the ridiculous names like "spike" and "bob" or whatever. Lmao.

Waste of time in my opinion.

It's a slang or jargon...also the same reason I wouldn't understand what a code xxx would be if it were a medical code or a military code. The whole purpose is just give them a name to keep track if what types of people are dominating the consumer base..

I can't believe nobody made a Konami  code joke...
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 04, 2012, 06:16:49 PM
Konami makes me angry, well when they try to make card games work anyway
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: scarsabrex on June 04, 2012, 06:51:06 PM
lol there are still bugs in the yugioh videogames
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Hays413 on June 04, 2012, 06:52:47 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of Contra 30 lives, but okay...
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: scarsabrex on June 04, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
we know you meant the contra code, doesn't mean konami's current games aren't lacking in some departments.
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 04, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 04, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
we know you meant the contra code, doesn't mean konami's current games aren't lacking in some departments.

This
Title: Re: Net decking
Post by: Sagemaster on June 18, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
Bump for Trevor