Not Your Average Standard Deck
19 {Mountain}
19 lands
4 {Myr Sire}
4 {Memnite}
8 creatures
4 {Faithless Looting}
4 {Reforge the Soul}
2 {Past in Flames}
4 {Kuldotha Rebirth}
4 {Flayer Husk}
3 {Increasing Vengeance}
2 {Burn at the Stake}
3 {Mox Opal}
4 {Battle Hymn}
3 {Infernal Plunge}
33 other spells
Sideboard
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ooh wow. that's creative not to say the least.
It works a lot like storm. I'm still working on different variants using things like Mox Opal. Earlier today on cockatrice I got the opponent to 5 life turn 2
my only concern is does burn at the stake really work? i have a hard time seeing you run out more than 2 creatures.
I would have to agree, it seems like u really won't ever have enough creatures to make burn at the stake worth it's while. I think maybe take out that and put in something else.
How often do you have to muligan? Also is past in flames really good enough for that many copies?
Love the deck btw, awesome ingenuity
Maybe replace {burn at the stake} with {bonfire of the damned}?
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 02, 2012, 09:14:56 PM
my only concern is does burn at the stake really work? i have a hard time seeing you run out more than 2 creatures.
Burn at the stake works like a charm. Once I pull out the Kuldotha Rebirth and Increasing Vengeance it I have at least 6 creatures. Odds are there are memnites from earlier and its gg. If not I flashback it. The deck doesn't really make a whole lot of sense until you see it in action. As I may have said it works a lot like storm.
I really like the deck, I actually think I may take this and make it and try it out. My only question/concern with it is that it seems like if u don't get what u need first turn then that deck kinda poops out and can't get it done in time...is that how it has worked for u? Is it a hit or miss deck?
Quote from: Rtace88 on June 03, 2012, 03:45:02 AM
I really like the deck, I actually think I may take this and make it and try it out.
Lmao! This is what is destroying magic. People playing net decks.
Sexy deck, btw. Haven't seen this one yet. So hope people don't replicate it! Creativity +1. ^_^
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 03:49:06 AM
Quote from: Rtace88 on June 03, 2012, 03:45:02 AM
I really like the deck, I actually think I may take this and make it and try it out.
Lmao! This is what is destroying magic. People playing net decks.
Sexy deck, btw. Haven't seen this one yet. So hope people don't replicate it! Creativity +1. ^_^
What is destroying Magic is people playing the same 4 decks, this is not in any way shape or form popular. Its an abstract idea of a deck and people should see what kind of modifications the deck needs to be the best. But thanks anyway.
It looks fun.
What matchups do you have trouble with?
Control because of the occasional mainboard graveyard hate and also {Curse of Deaths Hold}.
What is destroying Magic is people playing the same 4 decks, this is not in any way shape or form popular. Its an abstract idea of a deck and people should see what kind of modifications the deck needs to be the best. But thanks anyway.
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Ok can someone please explain to me what these 4 decks are? My local meta is thriving with creativity and not because we're a bunch of noobs which is why my old shop was so creative, but because we are all great players to varying degrees and half of us net deck and the other half build creative solutions to the meta. (30-60ppl average at fnm)
I would say token, delver, pod, and burn decks are pretty much the most popular.
Pod is still alive? I havent seen pod measure up to GR tempo since wolfir avenger came out.
Our common decks are reanimator (those who havent turn over there decks into something new yet), tokens and mono white humans from the noobs who also bring vamps sometimes, delver (both restoration and vexing devil variants), GRtempo, 1 or 2 pods here and there, jank combo, descendants path humans or werewolves, angel burn, and since ive been winning over half o the last two month of fnm with heartless more an more people are trying it. Oh and my crew bring a nasty spirit deck and a wild defiance that we started working on day on of avacyn.
Cool story.
People like winning. They don't dump hundreds of dollars into cards to lose. They use what works, what's proven. They might even put their own twist on it.
People have been doing it forever in every game, nothing's new.
If people want to netdeck, let them. They will always be middle to rear of the pack.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 03, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
People like winning. They don't dump hundreds of dollars into cards to lose. They use what works, what's proven. They might even put their own twist on it.
People have been doing it forever in every game, nothing's new.
If people want to netdeck, let them. They will always be middle to rear of the pack.
If cheating to win is what you consider acceptable, I want no part of your group.
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 02:40:09 PM
I would say token, delver, pod, and burn decks are pretty much the most popular.
He wasn't being literal by saying 4 decks.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 03, 2012, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 02:40:09 PM
I would say token, delver, pod, and burn decks are pretty much the most popular.
He wasn't being literal by saying 4 decks.
But he's right. There's only 4 or 5 kinds of decks and variants of those decks. From what I see on a week to week basis.
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 03, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
People like winning. They don't dump hundreds of dollars into cards to lose. They use what works, what's proven. They might even put their own twist on it.
People have been doing it forever in every game, nothing's new.
If people want to netdeck, let them. They will always be middle to rear of the pack.
If cheating to win is what you consider acceptable, I want no part of your group.
Do you think with millions of people playing 1 game that there won't be similarities? Really? Are you that closeminded? Just because your opinion of net decking is cheating, good for you it's not cheating in anyway.
My point is that people will have similar decks no matter what. Crying about neck decking is nonsense.
I don't netdeck, I have a fascination with mill decks and just because i say there isn't anything wrong with net decking doesn't mean I do it. I don't care to be honest until someone comes along crying about it.
Edit: sorry op
Quote from: Kuberr on June 03, 2012, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 03, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
People like winning. They don't dump hundreds of dollars into cards to lose. They use what works, what's proven. They might even put their own twist on it.
People have been doing it forever in every game, nothing's new.
If people want to netdeck, let them. They will always be middle to rear of the pack.
If cheating to win is what you consider acceptable, I want no part of your group.
well gosh in that case you aren't cut out to play competetive magic.
Sorry to the OP for derailing this thread.
There are three very seperate disciplines in competitive magic play. First is one's understanding of the game and ability to play it correctly. That is the most important or else matchs get won and lost because the person cant maintain gamestate or think out their moves correctly because they dont understand active player priority or something similar. Next is one's ability to build a deck, this takes a very rare skill to corridimate multiple probabilities in a limited number of resources and an understanding of the collective knowledge of magic players. This is often overlooked because many people just cant think like that and of those who can many lack the time or means to educate themselves on the collective knowledge. Lastly is their resource management and speculation on card prices, trade value, and playability. That only comes from an understanding of the other two.
^^ this.
those net decks? they are proven and battle tested. if you want to make a point kuberr make a deck which will consistently compete with them, go to a grand prix scg open or whatever and make it into the top 8. you don't go into nascar with a crappy car, or make an mp3 player which can't compete with an ipod etc. get with it.
Quote from: scarsabrex on June 03, 2012, 03:15:25 PM
go to a grand prix scg open or whatever and make it into the top 8.
Sure. Will do. I'll be in Chicago in November playing the modern GTP. :D top 8 is a little low. I'm shooting for top 3. Don't believe me? Would you like my dci number?
Anyways, yes op. good deck.
Wow I thought this forum was to get feed back and any suggestions on peoples deck ideas. Loop S Pool, I like the deck idea and I feel sorry that these other guys have their panties in a bunch and can't message their arguments instead of giving you positive feedback.
You have now had some time since you origionally posted the deck, has there been any new revalations on the deck?
Thanks everybody for the input. As for the discussion, I agree with willthomjr. I don't netdeck either but I see why people do it. My favorite is when a rogue deck tops all the others. As in the case of the UW Miracle control deck at GP( I believe, might not be there). I have not gotten any extra testing since posting however. I went to a baseball game Tigers vs Yankees. We lost but hey someone ran through the out feild and tapped an outfielder before being tackled.
Alright, I made a few changes. Tried upping the count on reforge and I'll see how that works out. Can anyone give me some pointers on a sideboard? I have {Bonfire of the Damned} to clear away faster decks but I am lost as to what else I want.
Shrine of burning rage, gut shot, and maybe koth are what come to mind for me.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on June 04, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
Shrine of burning rage, gut shot, and maybe koth are what come to mind for me.
Koth actually sounds like a decent choice because +1 making a creature and an untapped land.
I agree, forsure put some gut shot in their, it is amazing for delver, and other little annoying one drops.
As far as the net decking is concerned, I think it started with me saying I wanted to make it and try It out. So I'm sorry loop it is kind of my fault we got off topic. But understand I was not trying to net deck when I said that, all I ment by that was I thought it was a cool idea, I would try to make and play test it with some of my friends. Not like I was going to freaking go to a tournament or anything. I dont understand why people have to take something so small and make such a big issue out of it. Anyway loops, it is a great looking deak and it looks fun, I hope u have fun with it.
What about {thopter assembly}?