{platinium emperion} and {reanimate}
Quote from: Killin88 on May 31, 2012, 11:38:30 PM
{platinium emperion} and {reanimate}
Do you have a platinum emperion? Lmao. I've been looking everywhere.
Oh my god yes, that'll acctually go really good in my deck!
Isn't paying life part of the casting cost on reanimate, meaning reanimate comes of te stack first doing the 8 points of damage then the other creature comes in, saying your life total can't change.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on June 01, 2012, 01:52:16 AM
Isn't paying life part of the casting cost on reanimate, meaning reanimate comes of te stack first doing the 8 points of damage then the other creature comes in, saying your life total can't change.
i dont thinks its a casting cost. More of a consesquence. But yes i think you do take 8 damage to reanimate the Empor.
This is a toughie... I mean, the Empirion is on the table during the resolution of the spell and his effect is static. I think this may work.
I'll see if I can get some judge input.
doesnt a card resolve fully at once? Thus you get the Emper but lose life at the exact moment it its the field. Or do statics work at that moment and not when the state is checked?
This happened at a tournament I went to. All the players said he doesn't take the damage because "put the creature on the battle field" and "lose life" are two seperate statements.
This is sick combo if it works!
I think they all resolve at the same time. The only reason why it might work is because there are two effects. And they are technically different sentences. So the first effect resolves, bringing him back. Then you lose the life. Would seperate sentence make it work the way we want? Bc it could have said, "put target creature from your graveyard on the battlefield, THEN lose life equal to its mana cost".
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 01, 2012, 07:14:45 AM
This is sick combo if it works!
I think they all resolve at the same time. The only reason why it might work is because there are two effects. And they are technically different sentences. So the first effect resolves, bringing him back. Then you lose the life. Would seperate sentence make it work the way we want? Bc it could have said, "put target creature from your graveyard on the battlefield, THEN lose life equal to its mana cost".
I think quackmaster has a good point. Because it doesn't say THEN they are two different resolving points. The creature goes to the BF, emperion's effect goes to work and the second clause on reanimate can't happen
Quote from: Greg54js on June 01, 2012, 07:39:33 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 01, 2012, 07:14:45 AM
This is sick combo if it works!
I think they all resolve at the same time. The only reason why it might work is because there are two effects. And they are technically different sentences. So the first effect resolves, bringing him back. Then you lose the life. Would seperate sentence make it work the way we want? Bc it could have said, "put target creature from your graveyard on the battlefield, THEN lose life equal to its mana cost".
I think quackmaster has a good point. Because it doesn't say THEN they are two different resolving points. The creature goes to the BF, emperion's effect goes to work and the second clause on reanimate can't happen
Actually it's the not having then that doesnt make it work IMO. If then was there the second part of the spell (part after then) would fizzle as a result of {platinum Emperion}, however, because of the 2 sentences you're losing 8 life as P. Emperion is entering the battlefield.
the combo works. the then is implied just like all other multiple step effect, {ponder}
{erratic explosion}. you resolve parts of effects in the order they are read.
use {breaking wave} as a counter example.
I say it works based on wording. If it said "as part of casting reanimate, pay life equal to creature in your GY......blah blah" then I would say no.
Im pretty sure if reanimates ablilites resolved simultanuosly then the card would have an "and" in there somewhere, or a "then." in this case, the first abilitry resolves first, then you get platnuim emperion out, then the lose life ablility is triggered. In my mind its pretty simple. It has the same concept as any instant would have. If say this was "darksteel Collousus" and before the secod ability resolved i played something like "Endure" then I wouldent take the damage.