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Title: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on November 22, 2011, 05:09:20 PM
I just bought this Innistrad Event Deck and I want to improve it. As you guys knows way more than me, can you help me?

Thanks


Hold The Line

60 cards, 15 sideboard


24 {Plains}

24 lands


4 {Fiend Hunter}
4 {Accorder Paladin}
4 {Gideon's Lawkeeper}
4 {Doomed Traveler}
1 {Elite Inquisitor}
2 {Elite Vanguard}
2 {Mirran Crusader}
1 {Champion of the Parish}

22 creatures


4 {Oblivion Ring}
4 {Bonds of Faith}
2 {Silver-Inlaid Dagger}
2 {Honor of the Pure}
2 {Butcher's Cleaver}

14 other spells


Sideboard

3 {Nihil Spellbomb}
3 {Suture Priest}
4 {Leonin Relic-Warder}
4 {Celestial Purge}
1 {Nevermore}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Battlegear on November 22, 2011, 05:14:10 PM
{rally the peasants} is awesome in a deck like this, perhaps swap out for daggers ?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: loop-s-pool on November 22, 2011, 05:21:08 PM
+2 Crusaders
+3 Parish
+2 Angelic Overseer
-2 Fiend Hunter
-4 Equipments
Rest is up to you really. Add some divine reckoning to get a good Angelic Overseer combo going. Possibly splash blue for Geist of St. Traft
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Battlegear on November 22, 2011, 05:24:02 PM
Also, should have at least 3 {champion of the parish} take out 2 {gideons lawkeeper}
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on November 22, 2011, 07:00:36 PM
{mentor of the meek} is also pretty sweet
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on November 22, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
Any usefull card to copy {Angelic Destiny}?

What about a {Hero of Bladehold}? And {Great Abolisher}?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Prophylaxis on November 23, 2011, 12:49:47 PM
If you're looking to save money then just buy another copy of this great Event Deck. You then have two or more copies of the staples.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: loop-s-pool on November 24, 2011, 10:06:31 AM
Quote from: Battlegear on November 22, 2011, 05:24:02 PM
Also, should have at least 3 {champion of the parish} take out 2 {gideons lawkeeper}

Gideon's Lawkeepers pave the way for high hitting cards like Accorder Paladin.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: BlackJester on November 24, 2011, 11:18:50 AM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on November 24, 2011, 10:06:31 AM
Quote from: Battlegear on November 22, 2011, 05:24:02 PM
Also, should have at least 3 {champion of the parish} take out 2 {gideons lawkeeper}

Gideon's Lawkeepers pave the way for high hitting cards like Accorder Paladin.

Plus, they can lock down animated {Inkmoth Nexus}'s and other beaters.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on November 24, 2011, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: Bernardcs on November 22, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
Any usefull card to copy {Angelic Destiny}?

What about a {Hero of Bladehold}? And {Great Abolisher}?

I don't know of any enchantment copiers. Grand abolisher is a good card to swap into the deck because he is a human. The hero is up to you.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Spikepit on November 24, 2011, 03:12:38 PM
{Grand Abolisher}
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on November 24, 2011, 04:37:26 PM
Didn't think I needed to curly brackets the name because it was in the quote.. To a degree.. It was spelled wrong and I didnt realize until now.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on November 24, 2011, 06:39:24 PM
Thank you all for the help. As soon as I buy the cards i'll let you know.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 07, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
I got 3x {Grand Abolisher} and 2x {Champion of the Parish}. What should I swap with?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on December 07, 2011, 06:41:29 PM
Personally I'd go
-2 {fiendhunter}
-2 {doomed traveler}
-1 {gideon's lawkeeper}

But you can swap whatever you feel is better for the deck
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Validan on December 07, 2011, 06:57:24 PM
I'm only running two grand abolishers and it works nicely, I feel like too many more than that mainboard might waste slots for other good cards you may want to put in
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on December 07, 2011, 09:36:37 PM
Valid point but if you're anything like me I have a terrible time pulling a card if I only have two or fewer copies. My decks require 3 and 4 of's to ensure I get the card I need
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Validan on December 07, 2011, 09:48:22 PM
I often have that problem with too much mana lol
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Validan on December 07, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
I often have that problem with too much mana lol
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on December 07, 2011, 10:09:33 PM
I guess I should've only been running like 22-23 lands instead of 24
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Validan on December 07, 2011, 10:39:52 PM
Sometimes 22 seems like its too much lol but we are getting off track
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on December 08, 2011, 05:41:53 AM
We're not that far off.. It still has some relevance to the deck
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 08, 2011, 05:52:00 AM
Mana is essential as well.
You guys help me a lot.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Greg54js on December 08, 2011, 05:53:34 AM
No prob
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: BlackJester on December 08, 2011, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: Validan on December 07, 2011, 10:39:52 PM
Sometimes 22 seems like its too much lol but we are getting off track

I'd say this is all on track.  Land count really comes down to things like mana curve and how the deck plays.  On a spectrum, 19 lands are usually monocolored aggro decks with lots of low casting costs.  White Weenie and goblins, for example, don't want to draw much land once they have 3-4 on the table.  Maxing out at 24 are control strategies where you are holding back and playing removal on your opponents turn.  Here, you don't want to miss your land drop for the turn so that you can play your bombs as early as possible.

     There is more to it, but there are resources out there if you look.  :)  Typically, unless you have good reason to deviate, stay around 21-22 land and you should be fine. 
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: cltrn81 on December 08, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
Here Here!!!!!
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Validan on December 08, 2011, 04:24:03 PM
Good info!
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: BlackJester on December 08, 2011, 04:29:46 PM
IMHO, of course.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 09, 2011, 09:38:59 AM
Good info! (2)
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 19, 2011, 01:20:04 PM
Just arrived:
4 x {Elite Inquisitor}
1 x {Champion of the Parish}
2 x {Mirran Crusader}
2 x {Honor of the Pure}
1 x {Grand Abolisher}
1 x {Hero of Bladehold}

Should I use any of them?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Appleguru56 on December 19, 2011, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: Bernardcs on December 19, 2011, 01:20:04 PM
Just arrived:
4 x {Elite Inquisitor}
1 x {Champion of the Parish}
2 x {Mirran Crusader}
2 x {Honor of the Pure}
1 x {Grand Abolisher}
1 x {Hero of Bladehold}

Should I use any of them?
All of them, I would suggest getting 3 more copies of hero
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 19, 2011, 02:33:29 PM
What should I take out?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Prophylaxis on December 19, 2011, 02:55:53 PM
Your extra lands.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 19, 2011, 03:06:19 PM
24 lands... Are there any extra?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Prophylaxis on December 19, 2011, 03:06:51 PM
Quote from: Bernardcs on December 19, 2011, 03:06:19 PM
24 lands... Are there any extra?

Cut down to 19-20 lands.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 19, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Ok. What about taking out {Oblivion Ring}?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Appleguru56 on December 19, 2011, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: Bernardcs on December 19, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Ok. What about taking out {Oblivion Ring}?
NO
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Alaskanice on December 20, 2011, 01:30:42 PM
I agree with apple, oblivion ring is an amazing removal card and in my deck it has saved me several times.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Alaskanice on December 20, 2011, 01:31:59 PM
Could you edit your deck to what it is at now? I have kind of lost track as to what you have been trading out.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Appleguru56 on December 20, 2011, 11:16:54 PM
Quote from: Alaskanice on December 20, 2011, 01:31:59 PM
Could you edit your deck to what it is at now? I have kind of lost track as to what you have been trading out.
Can I just build this deck?
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Nekbrakuhr on December 20, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
Ive customized hold the line and the deck i made is 14-3. See "any ideas" to get a peek.
Title: Re: Hold The Line
Post by: Bernardcs on December 21, 2011, 09:01:35 AM
My updated deck is the one under the name Hold the Line 2.0.