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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 10:06:49 PM

Title: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 10:06:49 PM
So if I sac {Flayer of the Hatebound} with {birthing pod} and bring out {Gisela, Blade of Goldnight} do I do 10 damage or 5? And how do the things go on the stack?
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Greg54js on May 29, 2012, 10:09:04 PM
Pod puts the creature out first then undying triggers
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Poof on May 29, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
You sacrifice the creature and put pods ability on the stack then undying goes on the stack resolves first then you bring out the angel so only 5
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: Poof on May 29, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
You sacrifice the creature and put pods ability on the stack then undying goes on the stack resolves first then you bring out the angel so only 5
So pod and undying don't occur at the same time?
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on May 29, 2012, 10:09:04 PM
Pod puts the creature out first then undying triggers
Really? That's what I thought!
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Poof on May 29, 2012, 10:21:53 PM
Nope you're activating pods ability first so it goes on the stack first which results in a creature dying then the death triggers would go on the stack on top of pod.  All death triggers will resolve before you get to search for a creature

Youre paying an abilities cost once it's paid it's put on the stack.  The creature died as a result but the ability is already on the stack.
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: Poof on May 29, 2012, 10:21:53 PM
Nope you're activating pods ability first so it goes on the stack first which results in a creature dying then the death triggers would go on the stack on top of pod.  All death triggers will resolve before you get to search for a creature

Youre paying an abilities cost once it's paid it's put on the stack.  The creature died as a result but the ability is already on the stack.

Uhhh but then wouldn't the pods ability resolve before undying is put on the stack since its cost has been paid?
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Poof on May 29, 2012, 10:57:44 PM
Death causes undying to trigger it would immediately be put on the stack before pod could resolve
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: Poof on May 29, 2012, 10:57:44 PM
Death causes undying to trigger it would immediately be put on the stack before pod could resolve

Okay then wouldn't the pods second part be put on stack after the undying?
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 11:01:47 PM
Sorry for all the qs :/
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Poof on May 29, 2012, 11:05:41 PM
Any ability resolves all
At once there is no second part to pod.  You put the ability on stack at the same time the ability goes on the stack a
Creature dies causing the undying trigger to subsequently be put on the stack.
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 11:08:14 PM
Ohhh okay thanks!
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Jdogtoocool on May 29, 2012, 11:49:59 PM
If you like using Flayer, use Phyrexian metamorph to copy flayer and do 10 damage when one of them dies. Both die and that's game
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Sagemaster on May 29, 2012, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on May 29, 2012, 11:49:59 PM
If you like using Flayer, use Phyrexian metamorph to copy flayer and do 10 damage when one of them dies. Both die and that's game
I could use image too :D
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Jdogtoocool on May 30, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
Yup make a deck all about the Flaya'
Title: Re: Flayer Gisela pod
Post by: Greg54js on May 30, 2012, 05:41:27 AM
Quote from: Poof on May 29, 2012, 10:21:53 PM
Nope you're activating pods ability first so it goes on the stack first which results in a creature dying then the death triggers would go on the stack on top of pod.  All death triggers will resolve before you get to search for a creature

Youre paying an abilities cost once it's paid it's put on the stack.  The creature died as a result but the ability is already on the stack.

I shouldn't answer stack questions when I'm tired lol 