U/G Infect Pump 75 cards, 15 sideboard 5 {Island} 4 {Inkmoth Nexus} 10 {Forest} 4 {Hinterland Harbor} 23 lands 4 {Blighted Agent} 4 {Ichorclaw Myr} 4 {Glistener Elf} 12 creatures 3 {Ranger's Guile} 3 {Livewire Lash} 2 {Mirran Mettle} 1 {Titanic Growth} 4 {Mutagenic Growth} 4 {Wild Defiance} 4 {Artful Dodge} 4 {Apostle's Blessing} 25 other spells Sideboard 4 {Gut Shot} 3 {Mana Leak} 3 {Mental Misstep} 2 {Beast Within} 3 {Naturalize} 15 sideboard cards |
Quote from: Nobbert on May 26, 2012, 12:26:36 PMOh... Well I run them just in case you run into something problematic..
Typical game:
Turn one, land go
Turn two, blighted agent
Turn three, wild defiance
Turn four, pump and swing for game
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on May 26, 2012, 12:30:23 PMUnderstood. That card would be super door if I could afford to have a five dropQuote from: Nobbert on May 26, 2012, 12:26:36 PMOh... Well I run them just in case you run into something problematic..
Typical game:
Turn one, land go
Turn two, blighted agent
Turn three, wild defiance
Turn four, pump and swing for game
Quote from: Nobbert on May 26, 2012, 12:32:02 PMYea.. I understand. I am more used to a Ramp U/G infect with {Vines of the Vastwood} as the only ramp cards. An I usually play legacy so more different play styles.Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on May 26, 2012, 12:30:23 PMUnderstood. That card would be super door if I could afford to have a five dropQuote from: Nobbert on May 26, 2012, 12:26:36 PMOh... Well I run them just in case you run into something problematic..
Typical game:
Turn one, land go
Turn two, blighted agent
Turn three, wild defiance
Turn four, pump and swing for game
Quote from: Nicholas256 on May 26, 2012, 03:47:06 PMYou aren't bursting anybody's bubble. What happens against those decks is I win, turn four or five. I have won so many games with just a single inkmoth and no other creatures.
Not to Burt your bubble but what happens when you play a zombie deck... Red green wolf? Vampire? Token? Burn? White green creature pump? Just saying be seen a similar probably better infect deck... But ur general problem is lack of creatures
Quote from: Nicholas256 on May 26, 2012, 09:30:45 PM
Then you are a little fish in a small puddle of water. I would destroy this deck with any half assed burn by simply zapping ur nexus and creatures. It's not hard it's called playing smart. My buddy runs a blue green infect deck, so maybe that's why I Kno how to undo them so easily just saying smart players have kill cards and what not. And check out my white/green pump deck you could only probably beat that with nexus. I am curious though if u ran sword of war and peace would that splash as infect damage?
Quote from: Nobbert on May 26, 2012, 10:09:32 PMQuote from: Nicholas256 on May 26, 2012, 09:30:45 PM
Then you are a little fish in a small puddle of water. I would destroy this deck with any half assed burn by simply zapping ur nexus and creatures. It's not hard it's called playing smart. My buddy runs a blue green infect deck, so maybe that's why I Kno how to undo them so easily just saying smart players have kill cards and what not. And check out my white/green pump deck you could only probably beat that with nexus. I am curious though if u ran sword of war and peace would that splash as infect damage?
That's nice an all, but with wild defiance, your burn spells actually pump my creatures. If you try to shock my inkmoth, all you'll end up doing is giving it +1/+1. Not to mention the Ranger's Guiles and Apostle's Blessings that I have to counter any other kill spells. Get off your high horse. I know how to play my deck.
Quote from: Nobbert on May 26, 2012, 10:33:28 AM
U/G Infect Pump
75 cards, 15 sideboard
5 {Island}
4 {Inkmoth Nexus}
10 {Forest}
4 {Hinterland Harbor}
23 lands
4 {Blighted Agent}
4 {Glistener Elf}
12 creatures
4 {Ranger's Guile}
4 {Livewire Lash}
4 {thought scour}
2 {surgical extraction}
4 {corrupted resolve}
4 {Mutagenic Growth}
4 {Ponder}
4 {Apostle's Blessing}
25 other spells
Sideboard
4 {turn aside}
3 {Mana Leak}
4 {ratchet bomb}
2 {Beast Within}
2 {Naturalize}
15 sideboard cards
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 26, 2012, 11:27:34 PMI used to side it, but between blighted agent, Apostle's blessing, and the artful dodges, I don't really have a problem with blockers.
Could {unnatural predation} fit it?
Quote from: Nobbert on May 27, 2012, 02:52:57 AM
Typical game against your deck
Turn one: inkmoth
Turn two: island, blighted agent (to bait out your dumbass kill spell)
Turn three: forest, wild defiance
Turn four: island, animate nexus, pump and swing for game
Now go eat a (expletive deleted), I'm tired of self righteous douchebags like you taking the fun out of magic. Also, learn how to spell.
Quote from: Nicholas256 on May 27, 2012, 04:15:53 AMARE YOU AN IDIOT
Your nexus would still die and you can't cast your dude and play apostles blessing at the same time not enough mana. Quit being such a pompous .rearexit. and realize I'm just saying you may want some more creatures. I do happen to run a red/blue artifact with galvanic blast in it and your talking about dropping spells like you can tap a land to transform ink and use it as mana
Quote from: Richardalcala on May 28, 2012, 01:43:33 PMIn all honesty, delver is the only deck that has given me trouble, but that's when you side in mental missteps (which ate great against vapor snags too) and gut shots ( which can actually be used to PUMP your own creatures with wild defiance out). Plus, live wire lash makes short work of a flipped delver.
Dude I like your deck and will be trying it out at the next FNM. I am tired of getting beat to deliver. How does your deck do against him? It looks fun. Don't let the other guy ruin your fun. He probally just hates infect.
Quote from: Elite621 on May 28, 2012, 01:46:04 PMThis deck 2-0s wolf run ramp all the time. Just be sure to side in the mans leaks game 2 against {melira, slyvok outcast}. And apostles blessing negates slag storms!
I have a similar deck. Thanks for defending/explaining it. I like that most people don't sideboard against infect anymore... But with this deck they may have to.
Winning two turn four games in a row, when they don't see it coming, feels great. Especially with a $50 deck vs the ramp decks that can cost $200+
Cheers
Quote from: Richardalcala on May 28, 2012, 02:32:56 PMU actually cant counter a mana leak with it. Its not a permanent until it resolves
Or {turn aside} I pulled one of those out when a guy {mana leaked} a creature and he was like I have never seen that before. WOW.
Quote from: Nobbert on May 28, 2012, 03:45:11 PM
I would add in some {outwit} to the sideboard to protect against sacrifice spells. Maybe that will shut that tool up.
Quote from: Nobbert on May 28, 2012, 02:28:14 PMAren't mental missteps banned?Quote from: Richardalcala on May 28, 2012, 01:43:33 PMIn all honesty, delver is the only deck that has given me trouble, but that's when you side in mental missteps (which ate great against vapor snags too) and gut shots ( which can actually be used to PUMP your own creatures with wild defiance out). Plus, live wire lash makes short work of a flipped delver.
Dude I like your deck and will be trying it out at the next FNM. I am tired of getting beat to deliver. How does your deck do against him? It looks fun. Don't let the other guy ruin your fun. He probally just hates infect.
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on May 28, 2012, 07:41:28 PMNot in standard...Quote from: Nobbert on May 28, 2012, 02:28:14 PMAren't mental missteps banned?Quote from: Richardalcala on May 28, 2012, 01:43:33 PMIn all honesty, delver is the only deck that has given me trouble, but that's when you side in mental missteps (which ate great against vapor snags too) and gut shots ( which can actually be used to PUMP your own creatures with wild defiance out). Plus, live wire lash makes short work of a flipped delver.
Dude I like your deck and will be trying it out at the next FNM. I am tired of getting beat to deliver. How does your deck do against him? It looks fun. Don't let the other guy ruin your fun. He probally just hates infect.
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 28, 2012, 08:13:25 PMIt is banned in a lot if other formats thoughQuote from: JaCe BeLeReN on May 28, 2012, 07:41:28 PMNot in standard...Quote from: Nobbert on May 28, 2012, 02:28:14 PMAren't mental missteps banned?Quote from: Richardalcala on May 28, 2012, 01:43:33 PMIn all honesty, delver is the only deck that has given me trouble, but that's when you side in mental missteps (which ate great against vapor snags too) and gut shots ( which can actually be used to PUMP your own creatures with wild defiance out). Plus, live wire lash makes short work of a flipped delver.
Dude I like your deck and will be trying it out at the next FNM. I am tired of getting beat to deliver. How does your deck do against him? It looks fun. Don't let the other guy ruin your fun. He probally just hates infect.
Quote from: scarsabrex on May 28, 2012, 05:02:44 PM
the deck is good. nough said
i wish though that some of the zendikar pumps were atill in standard.
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on May 28, 2012, 10:01:34 PM{Vines of the Vastwood} in infect.Quote from: scarsabrex on May 28, 2012, 05:02:44 PM
the deck is good. nough said
i wish though that some of the zendikar pumps were atill in standard.
Omg virulent swipe in infect
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on May 29, 2012, 07:23:50 AMQuote from: DirtyMustachio on May 28, 2012, 10:01:34 PM{Vines of the Vastwood} in infect.Quote from: scarsabrex on May 28, 2012, 05:02:44 PM
the deck is good. nough said
i wish though that some of the zendikar pumps were atill in standard.
Omg virulent swipe in infect
Quote from: GoJuDragon on May 29, 2012, 12:31:10 PMI did play in Salisbury, NC. Now I play in Tallahassee as of yesterday
If I may ask, where do you play FNM? Because some one who was using a deck almost exactly like this got 3rd last Friday at the FNM that I go to...
Quote from: Richardalcala on June 02, 2012, 01:53:35 PMThe artful dodges are often used to trigger wild defiance twice in the same turn for the kill swing, but if you found a way to make it work to your liking, then more power to you! Glad you enjoyed playing with it. :)
I took out the {artfull dodge} seemed like being blocked was never a problem. I put in a {Wolfe silver heart} a {over run} and 2 {joint assualt}. That is all I have with me. Maybe next Friday I will put the green miracles in. The decked played fine for me I only lost to delver and they were very close games that went to 3. Very cool deck.
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on June 02, 2012, 02:39:35 PM
I know but this deck has been out since scars and nph and never really made much of an impact I mean I played it after right after NPH came out and I got pooped on and now it's like oh hey look it tops -.- and my 400$ control deck can't hold a flame to it
Quote from: CbStrad on June 02, 2012, 03:19:51 PMThere's a reason an infect deck isn't tier one...and this is newer as a result of the wild defiance and it's the first time I've seen a competitive infect deck. Also 10 infect is a lot harder than you think because infect creatures are weaker. Also a $50 goblins deck can wipe the floor with your control deck no need to hate on infect.Quote from: Willthomjr on June 02, 2012, 03:02:26 PMQuote from: Elitehalo360 on June 02, 2012, 02:39:35 PM
I know but this deck has been out since scars and nph and never really made much of an impact I mean I played it after right after NPH came out and I got pooped on and now it's like oh hey look it tops -.- and my 400$ control deck can't hold a flame to it
It's a silly mechanic
10 infect counters to win shouldn't seem like a hard concept to grasp. No doubt it's easier to give 10 infect counts versus dealing 20 damage.
That, and you tell those pesky life-gain decks to piss off ^^