1: If I use {tibalt the fiend blooded}'s first ability, (assuming I do not have a typical draw step) and the card I draw is a miracle, can I play the miracle before I have to discard a random card? (also the "random card" thing is why tibalt sucks. Btw)
2: if I cast a {crippling chill} on an opponents creature, who then {cloudshift}s his creature in response, do I still draw a card even though the chill fizzles?
1. you reveal the miracle then randomly discard. Afterwards u can play if for its miracle cost (if u somehow managed to skip your draw as PW abilities are sorcery speed)
2. Is an iffy (meaning idk..)
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on May 26, 2012, 02:56:50 AM
1: If I use {tibalt the fiend blooded}'s first ability, (assuming I do not have a typical draw step) and the card I draw is a miracle, can I play the miracle before I have to discard a random card? (also the "random card" thing is why tibalt sucks. Btw)
2: if I cast a {crippling chill} on an opponents creature, who then {cloudshift}s his creature in response, do I still draw a card even though the chill fizzles?
You reveal it, let it sit on the stack, then discard, then cast it I think...
You still draw because there's nothing saying you have to tap it to draw. They're two seperate parts haha
EDIT: dang it Irish you beat me!
you don't draw, your spell fizzles.
1. When you draw, if you want to us the miracle trigger, you reveal the card and play with it revealed until the trigger resolves. In this case, or {Faithless Looting}, you'd reveal the card and keep it revealed, but still count it as part of your hand for the discard portion. If its still in your hand after Tibalt's ability is finished resolving (you didn't discard it) then you can cast it. If its no longer in your hand when the miracle trigger resolves you cant cast it.
2. If all of the targets of a spell or ability are illegal, the spell is countered. No draw.
Thank you BJ, I lost both arguments!
/hatin' 😁