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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Tetsomori on May 26, 2012, 01:44:32 AM

Title: Livewire lash
Post by: Tetsomori on May 26, 2012, 01:44:32 AM
{livewire lash}
{glistner elf}
{piller of flame}
{rangers guile}
So my buddy has glistner elf out equiped with the lash. I play piller of flame on it, he in response plays rangers guile will he do 4 infect or 2?
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: Sagemaster on May 26, 2012, 01:51:12 AM
He'll do 6, 4 from the elf an 2 from livewire lash.
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: Tetsomori on May 26, 2012, 01:53:55 AM
Pillar is a sorcery and was played on my turn the elf was only targeted 2 times but one fizzled. Not sure if The ability would still go off
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: Sagemaster on May 26, 2012, 01:57:40 AM
Oh right then he only deals 2 infect two you because the pillar fizzles.
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: TBNL on May 26, 2012, 02:08:36 AM
It would deal 4, wouldn't it? The lash says "whenever the creature becomes targeted", so both the pillar and guile target the elf, but the pillar still fizzles. So, 4 Infect for you.
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: BadLuckIrish on May 26, 2012, 02:30:21 AM
Quote from: TBNL on May 26, 2012, 02:08:36 AM
It would deal 4, wouldn't it? The lash says "whenever the creature becomes targeted", so both the pillar and guile target the elf, but the pillar still fizzles. So, 4 Infect for you.
^

He was targeted. Thats all that matters.
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: Sagemaster on May 26, 2012, 02:48:46 AM
Quote from: TBNL on May 26, 2012, 02:08:36 AM
It would deal 4, wouldn't it? The lash says "whenever the creature becomes targeted", so both the pillar and guile target the elf, but the pillar still fizzles. So, 4 Infect for you.
But he gains hex proof so I thought that makes it that pillar of flame has no target...
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: BadLuckIrish on May 26, 2012, 02:54:50 AM
 Stack order
1:P flame
2:Livewire
3:Guile
4:Livewire.

As soon as he waa targeted by Flame the wire ability procs.
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: Sagemaster on May 26, 2012, 02:55:28 AM
Ahh okay cool!!
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: Spikepit on May 26, 2012, 08:42:21 AM
Nice explanation Irish!
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: Tetsomori on May 26, 2012, 12:39:45 PM
Kk ty guys! Wasnt 100% on that so figured id ask
Title: Re: Livewire lash
Post by: cltrn81 on May 26, 2012, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on May 26, 2012, 02:54:50 AM
Stack order
1:P flame
2:Livewire
3:Guile
4:Livewire.

As soon as he waa targeted by Flame the wire ability procs.

This ⬆

Targeting is part of casting, once it has been targeted that is that......my point is that of you were to counter his spell the livewire lash would still trigger since countering a spell does not change the fact that it was targeted in the first place.