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Title: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Imdowd80 on May 23, 2012, 12:28:40 AM
If I have a creature with death touch fight a creature with protection from creatures, what happens?  Anything? 
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 12:29:41 AM
If the one with pro creatures is bigger it kills it. Death touch has no affect.
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Sagemaster on May 23, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
I think they still deal damage to each other if thats the wording, I thought protection only mattered with combat steps...
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 12:40:29 AM
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 23, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
I think they still deal damage to each other if thats the wording, I thought protection only mattered with combat steps...

No. Couldn't be. If a creature is pro blue. He can't be blocked or killed by a blue creature and cannot be the target of blue spells or abilities. Wouldn't it e the same if a creature was pro creatures?
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: TBNL on May 23, 2012, 12:58:51 AM
Protection protects from damage, not just combat damage, from the thing it is protecting against. So the protection trumps the deathtouch
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Sagemaster on May 23, 2012, 01:23:48 AM
Quote from: TBNL on May 23, 2012, 12:58:51 AM
Protection protects from damage, not just combat damage, from the thing it is protecting against. So the protection trumps the deathtouch
I can see that but the way it's worded on the card is confusing me...
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Sagemaster on May 23, 2012, 01:25:09 AM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on May 23, 2012, 12:28:40 AM
If I have a creature with death touch fight a creature with protection from creatures, what happens?  Anything?
What fighting card are you using?

Also would {ulvenwald tracker} be able to force a fight with a procreature creature?
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
No because you wouldn't be able to target the creature with pro creatures.
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: TBNL on May 23, 2012, 01:39:34 AM
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 23, 2012, 01:23:48 AM
Quote from: TBNL on May 23, 2012, 12:58:51 AM
Protection protects from damage, not just combat damage, from the thing it is protecting against. So the protection trumps the deathtouch
I can see that but the way it's worded on the card is confusing me...
It says "each creature deals damage equal to its power to the other", so the deathtouch creature is attempting to deal damage to the protected creature, which it cannot
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Maximo on May 23, 2012, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
No because you wouldn't be able to target the creature with pro creatures.

{Prey Upon}
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Sagemaster on May 23, 2012, 02:06:07 AM
Ohh I see now  cool cool cool
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 02:18:51 AM
Quote from: Maximo on May 23, 2012, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
No because you wouldn't be able to target the creature with pro creatures.


Key words. "target creature you don't control" target being the main point.
{Prey Upon}
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 02:20:13 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 02:18:51 AM
Quote from: Maximo on May 23, 2012, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
No because you wouldn't be able to target the creature with pro creatures.



{Prey Upon}

Key words. "target creature you don't control" target being the main point.

Therefor it cannot be used.
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: BadLuckIrish on May 23, 2012, 02:22:50 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 02:18:51 AM
Quote from: Maximo on May 23, 2012, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
No because you wouldn't be able to target the creature with pro creatures.


Key words. "target creature you don't control" target being the main point.
{Prey Upon}
Watch your post..its inside the qoute.

And {Pret Upon} will work on a pro-CREATURE. You can still target it with Prey...however because its your creature dealing the damage thier pro-creature creature will take no damage. So itll work...just not in your favor.
Title: Re: Death touch fight and protection
Post by: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 02:25:24 AM
So I was right. Just without irrelevant info.