If a {phantasmal image} copies a creature with hex proof can he then have equipment, or other spells target him by his owner without him popping? I say no my play group says yes. Please tell me I'm right.
I had to edit this, I had wrong creature up at first. I had metamorph not image. Oops.
I don't think a creature can copy another with he proof because they would have to target said creature.
It's metamorph doesn't target. So it can hit a hex proof creature.
Quote from: Kuberr on May 22, 2012, 10:46:09 PM
I don't think a creature can copy another with he proof because they would have to target said creature.
The metamorph does not use the words "copy target creature" therefore it can copy a hexproof or even a shroud creature. Remember that hexproof does not allow opponents to target it so yes you can equip your hexproof creature but not a shroud creature.
I don't think phrexian metamorp targets but you're asking about popping so I'm assuming you mean an illusion cause u didn't specify what type of creature and yes the owner can kill it by targeting it with anything hexproof means opponents can't target it
Quote from: Imdowd80 on May 22, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
It's metamorph doesn't target. So it can hit a hex proof creature.
Whoops, didn't even read the card. Haha
In that case it would come in with the same abilities.
Quote from: Kuberr on May 22, 2012, 10:54:39 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on May 22, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
It's metamorph doesn't target. So it can hit a hex proof creature.
Whoops, didn't even read the card. Haha
In that case it would come in with the same abilities.
But it is suppose to pop when targeted with a spell. Does hexproof prevent the popping. I don't see how it would, by my play group is insisting, and it cost me the game tonight.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on May 22, 2012, 11:12:37 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on May 22, 2012, 10:54:39 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on May 22, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
It's metamorph doesn't target. So it can hit a hex proof creature.
Whoops, didn't even read the card. Haha
In that case it would come in with the same abilities.
But it is suppose to pop when targeted with a spell. Does hexproof prevent the popping. I don't see how it would, by my play group is insisting, and it cost me the game tonight.
{Phantasmal Image}? It "pops" if you were to target it with equipment . However, if you were using that card, it would be illegal to copy something with hexproof since it targets. :/
Edit: I realize this does not copy. 👌
It doesn't target te creature just copies. Goes thru hexproof and shroud.
image doesn't target
😁 My bad! Ignoring that part, the Image would have to be sacrificed if it was targeted by an attempted equip.
So to clarify. Copy doesnt target so it bypasses hex and shroud. Equipment attach is an ability and targets or it will 'pop' images ans destroy {Ice Cage}s and the likes.
Quote from: Harmon1c on May 22, 2012, 11:27:37 PM
😁 My bad! Ignoring that part, the Image would have to be sacrificed if it was targeted by an attempted equip.
This
Phrexian metamorph is not an illusion
He meant image haha
What you're asking is if the {Phantasmal Image} gains Hexproof and therefore can no longer be targeted by your opponent and thus sacked. I don't have an answer for you and I don't think anyone here has given you an answer either. Sorry man.
He's asking if hexproof will prevent the sac from targeting by equipment...it wont
If you cast {Phantasmal Image} and have it enter the battlefield as a copy of another creature with Hexproof, your Image will gain that ability and cannot be a target of spells or abilites your opponent controls.
Now, if you equip the Image that is a copy of a Hexproof creature, the Image must be sacrificed since you have to target a creature to equip/attach them on. Hexproof does not prevent you from equipping, but the Image ability (sacrifice this when targeted by spell or ability) will cause it to be sacrificed.
If you copy a creature with Shroud, your Image would be safer since neither you nor your opponent will be able to target it and cause it to be sacrificed... though that may be a bit much.