{Tibalt, fiend blooded}'s ultimate + {sudden disappearance}.
Use the ultimate with {Sundial of Infinite} instead :p
Oracle says until end of turn, not until next end step. Therefore {Sundial of the Infinite} would not work with Tibalt. If a card says "until end of turn", then regardless of how you end the turn the effect will not happen. However, if a card says "until next end step", then sundial works because it skips the next end step. And since triggers only happen once, it will not activate the next endstep that you don't skip with sundial. Kind of confusing I know...but eventually you can wrap your mind around it!
...or end up with a {Mind Funeral}. Hehehe
Sudden disappearance wouldn't work
Either because it returns cards to their owners. They're going back to their owner anyways why waste a card and 6 mana
"under thiers owners control" i dont believe this works and actually counter products tibalt
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 08, 2012, 12:08:14 AM
Oracle says until end of turn, not until next end step. Therefore {Sundial of the Infinite} would not work with Tibalt. If a card says "until end of turn", then regardless of how you end the turn the effect will not happen. However, if a card says "until next end step", then sundial works because it skips the next end step. And since triggers only happen once, it will not activate the next endstep that you don't skip with sundial. Kind of confusing I know...but eventually you can wrap your mind around it!
...or end up with a {Mind Funeral}. Hehehe
1, T: End the turn. Activate this ability only during your turn. (Exile all spells and abilities on the stack. Discard down to your maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and
"this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)
If you put all three together:
{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}
{Sudden Dissapearance}
{Sundial of the Infinite Uses}
You can steal all the creatures, swing with all, then exile everything. 👍
Quote from: BoyMac on May 08, 2012, 02:05:21 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 08, 2012, 12:08:14 AM
Oracle says until end of turn, not until next end step. Therefore {Sundial of the Infinite} would not work with Tibalt. If a card says "until end of turn", then regardless of how you end the turn the effect will not happen. However, if a card says "until next end step", then sundial works because it skips the next end step. And since triggers only happen once, it will not activate the next endstep that you don't skip with sundial. Kind of confusing I know...but eventually you can wrap your mind around it!
...or end up with a {Mind Funeral}. Hehehe
1, T: End the turn. Activate this ability only during your turn. (Exile all spells and abilities on the stack. Discard down to your maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)
Exactly. The words that you made bold ("this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end) mean that any effect letting you keep creatures until the end of a turn will end, which means you will no longer possess the creatures.
Quote from: BlackJester on May 08, 2012, 02:25:14 AM
If you put all three together:
{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}
{Sudden Dissapearance}
{Sundial of the Infinite Uses}
You can steal all the creatures, swing with all, then exile everything. 👍
Just evil enough to work. I am going to sb {sudden disappearance} into my boros deck next time I play with my casual group. Need to down tune the tempo anyway so it can be competitive and not ROFLstomp my friends.