So, haven't had any luck with packs really. In the 50$ I've spent in AVR I've pulled about 15-20$ worth of cards. I could have easily spent 50$ on actual cards I wanted. What's your opinion? Straight up buy the cards or packs?
I almost always buy singles. I have terrible luck.
Decide on a set ammount of packs prior to the sets release including pre-release. After pack pick up, use those for bait and buy singles from their
I pull good cards most of the time, I buy singles that I need and packs when I am feeling lucky.
I like buying packs. It's fun to see what your getting, but I also will buy singles for when a deck idea strikes.
Packs are fun and there is no better feeling than opening something uber.......or wait....yes there is.....that feeling when all those singles you purchased on-line came in the mail and you open em up to stick em in your deck and go have some fun ;D
singles mostly for me, packs sometimes if I am having a bad day and I want some instant gratification......but that backfires when you pull crap.....especially a stupid curse from Innistrad ::)
Innistrad had cards other than curses and dual lands? 😱
I'm a big pack person. Idk why.. It'd prob be more effecient for me to buy singles but hey packs are way more fun.
Singles. Cost you 10x more to pull playsets from packs. You can occasionally hit a "home run" with opening packs, but let's be honest, I've never pulled a playset of rares from any packs.
I hear packs are more fun. It just seems like for 50$ I could have gotten 3 sigarda instead of 3-5$ rares. I might just buy one box per set then just buy the singles. Hardest part is convincing wife that one card is worth me spending 10-15$ per lol
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 07, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Packs are fun and there is no better feeling than opening something uber.......or wait....yes there is.....that feeling when all those singles you purchased on-line came in the mail and you open em up to stick em in your deck and go have some fun ;D
singles mostly for me, packs sometimes if I am having a bad day and I want some instant gratification......but that backfires when you pull crap.....especially a stupid curse from Innistrad ::)
Same here
Singles all the way.
Every set for awhile I got the "variety pack", I open the fat pack, draft with friends out of the box, sell/give away intro packs. Then I buy singles. Variety pack has almost never paid off, but it's a month worth of fun. Singles is cheaper too, I think the amount of packs I'd need to open to even get an uncommon playset is more then $2.
I think I'm going to retire from standard soon and focus on legacy and commander. Standard is just too expensive, and WotC is hating in control big time.
Quote from: Dudecore on May 07, 2012, 08:59:07 PM
Every set for awhile I got the "variety pack", I open the fat pack, draft with friends out of the box, sell/give away intro packs. Then I buy singles. Variety pack has almost never paid off, but it's a month worth of fun. Singles is cheaper too, I think the amount of packs I'd need to open to even get an uncommon playset is more then $2.
I think I'm going to retire from standard soon and focus on legacy and commander. Standard is just too expensive, and WotC is hating in control big time.
Dude Legacy is real expensive. You can get by without revised dualies but all the Onslaught fetch lands are super expensive. Then you have {force of will}, {wasteland}, {tarmogoyf}, etc. I would say the only format more expensive tgan Legacy is Competitive Vintage.
It's way more expensive for the singles, but the environment isnt changing daily or weekly. If you have a playset of {force of will}, then you have a playset.
Standard is like "oh cool, I just got this set of {Geist of St. Traft}", then everyone is like "cool, so what? He sucks now".
I think he might mean that it is expensive because you can't even keep a deck because it keeps cycling...so that means endless spending. Whereas if you just play legacy or whatever you spend big bucks on a deck but you keep it forever (occasionally improving it as new cards come and stuff).
But I definitely see your point...I with a landbase that will cost far more than a standard deck, the startup cost of legacy is a plane I will probably never be able to walk upon. ;)
I'm more of a singles person myself but every once in a while I get the urge to open boosters an that's why I save for whenever a new set comes out and buy a couple of boxes
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 07, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
I think he might mean that it is expensive because you can't even keep a deck because it keeps cycling...so that means endless spending. Whereas if you just play legacy or whatever you spend big bucks on a deck but you keep it forever (occasionally improving it as new cards come and stuff).
But I definitely see your point...I with a landbase that will cost far more than a standard deck, the startup cost of legacy is a plane I will probably never be able to walk upon. ;)
If I hit the lottery I'll set you up with a legacy deck no problem :) cause that's eventually where I'll reside. Standard is stupid. If I put the money I spend in a year on standard I could build a legacy deck and then some.
I like the packs. I tend to buy a few boxes during the expansion and do random drafts/6 pack sealed to keep the playing field level. $28 for 9 packs is usually what it turns out to. And do do that every few weeks keeps it kinda manageable. I do like the variety pack when it's $150 but more then that I tend to stay away.
I've spent easily over $1,000 on standard this year. Between singles, events, packs and associated things. The year isn't even over yet! I think if I spent that much on my legacy deck, I would be happier overall (because of my deck improvements) and commander is, sorry to say, more fun.
Quote from: Dudecore on May 07, 2012, 09:50:10 PM
I've spent easily over $1,000 on standard this year. Between singles, events, packs and associated things. The year isn't even over yet! I think if I spent that much on my legacy deck, I would be happier overall (because of my deck improvements) and commander is, sorry to say, more fun.
Dude same. I think next year I'm investing in a legacy deck. No standard or any such thing for me.
I am pumped for Return to Ravnica, but I'm right there with you. Might be my last year for standard.
I never really played standard. I just played crappy legacy until I could figure out how to build a good legacy deck, and that saved me money by not having to keep up with standard.
I like packs. For me, it's like scratching lotto tickets. I know it not wise for return on cash, but that moment of hope, of "come on foil {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}!" makes me smile. I enjoy the unknown more than the easy route.
That and most vendors can't sell common/uncommon playsets to Canada. :'(
Quote from: BlackJester on May 08, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
I like packs. For me, it's like scratching lotto tickets. I know it not wise for return on cash, but that moment of hope, of "come on foil {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}!" makes me smile. I enjoy the unknown more than the easy route.
That and most vendors can't sell common/uncommon playsets to Canada. :'(
This! Common/uncommon playsets to Canada is damn near impossible. And I don't even want playsets! Just one of each!
Anyway, for me, because I'm lucky enough to have a job that pays very well, cost is of no concern. So when new set time comes, I usually pick up two boxes and a fatpack(I like the boxes) then since I only keep one of each card, I trade the rest for store credit and pick up what I didn't pull. My return on investment is usually pretty good since I only keep singles. Then shop online for earlier set singles. ...damn I can't wait until I get back!
Hey you two...just so ya know. Next set that comes out if you have a 30 buck card I need, I can buy one and trade it to you!
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 08, 2012, 10:58:51 PM
Hey you two...just so ya know. Next set that comes out if you have a 30 buck card I need, I can buy one and trade it to you!
Appreciate the offer, but I suspect the cost of shipping a complete playset of C/U for a large set internationally might be a buck or two. $$$
If you're will to pay shipping....
Eh I can find a buck or two on the street. :p
I want to live on YOUR street! Unless you're talking about male deer, in which case there's enough of them here thanks.
Where do u guys play legacy. Everyone at my shop plays standard with a little modern?
Quote from: Richardalcala on May 09, 2012, 09:49:35 PM
Where do u guys play legacy. Everyone at my shop plays standard with a little modern?
Don't you live in Alaska?
Yep.
I meet with friends once a week (more or less. actually less.)
Wish I had a play group. O well bout to move down to the lower 48 in October so maybe my next shop will. I agree I would rather make a really fun legacy deck over a period of time. I still think standard is fun though.
Fat pack bought resulting in 2-3 4-5$ cards.
I have not been lucky with AVR pulls. Nearly box and a half with nothing but cavern of souls x1
I have great luck with first packs of sets.
First pack of innistrad? {lilliana of the veil}
Fist pack of DKA? {Falkenrath Aristocrat} and foil {huntmaster of the fells}
First pack of avacyn? {tamiyo the moon sage}
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I've had terrible pulls. A box and a fat pack. One tibalt and host of herons.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on May 14, 2012, 06:57:38 PM
I've had terrible pulls. A box and a fat pack. One tibalt and host of herons.
Wanna trade the host?
My housemate and I went halvsies in a booster box.
What we got from it was overall less than impressive for what it cost. I think I pulled better from my pre-release packs and a fat pack I also bought.
I would recomend putting down the cash for a playlet of common & uncommon instead, for the money it seems like a much better way to go, then just chase your rares via boosters or singles online.
There's so many cards I don't think I'm going to use and then there's all the extra cards that I'm gunna have to buy anyway.
Arguably the best thing about buying the box was the promo card. :)
Which is/was?
{silverblade paladin}
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